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[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (23 children)

But couldn't they just be defederated? Isn't that how it works?

[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Yea, and hex and grad of the Tankie Triad are generally pretty widely defederated from. db0 is one notable instance that doesn't and this screenshot is from .ml's side of the modlog who, should go without saying, is perfectly fine federating with the rest of the triad

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Trust me, we all hate them too. Not even for political positions anymore (eh, i've heard worse).

Personally i'd love to defederate, but i know a vocal minority on our instance like them, so we'll have to cope for now.

Someone's eventually going to initiate a vote on /0 governance to defederate (i know what i'm voting lol) but i also made this github issue if you're interested https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5578

[โ€“] lka1988 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Genuinely curious - besides that particular user causing issues, what's the deal with hexbear in general? Full of idiots like that?

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Full of idiots like that?

Yes because the admins want that kind of culture for the most part, as long as you're in the "in" Tankie crowd at least. Same problem with .ml, admins encouraging that kind of culture

[โ€“] Draconic_NEO 5 points 1 week ago

The admins literally are "idiots like that", one of their admins @[email protected] decided to harass me because during a spam wave I decided to alert some of the Lemmy instance admins of instances I'm on of the trolls who were spamming Nazi shit and they decided to yell at me because I didn't include hexbear and lemmy.ml admins in my list of pings, and putting words in my mouth trying to claim I'm an evil person.

They're not just encouraging that shitty behavior, they're actively participating in it.

CC: @[email protected]

[โ€“] lka1988 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Boo. And for .ml, are you talking about lemmy.ml? I'm subbed to several communities there for the FOSS and selfhosting stuff, on both this account and my db0 account..

[โ€“] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Yea .ml is shorthand for lemmy.ml, grad is shorthand for lemmygrad.ml

I'm subbed to several communities there for the FOSS and selfhosting stuff, on both this account and my db0 account..

I've been calling for a boycott of .ml for a few weeks now because they get away with a lot of crap because they, on the surface, have the biggest comms, so most instances don't want to defend from them. I say on the surface because it's only by subscribers count, so that can be full of dead accounts.

For example Linux .ml comm reports 52k subsribers, last I checked, Lemmy-verse wide only had 52k ACTIVE users. I highly doubt every single active user is subbed to the lemmy.ml Linux comm lol if you look to MAUs on a per comm basis, it's a much different story. A story that says that the only .ml comm to break the top 25 is memes LMFAO

So to that end I would like to encourage you to unsub from them and delete any posted content there

[โ€“] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Well, i'll try to avoid talking about the political stuff (there's an entire mountain of it) Do note i don't really care, i just ignore them; and i mainly participate in casual communities (they're pretty well behaved there)

Most content from hexbear is pretty low-effort. The admins are incompetent, and will allow [pretty much] anything so long as it comes from one of their users.

I've seen death threats, harassment, racism all from there; and the admins allow all of it. The bad-faith you to the ground in an argument, too.

I'll admit not all users are bad, but a majority probably are. That's my personal opinion. On [email protected] they've been pretty okay actually, they're allowed there. But it's more of a discussion/casual community imo.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didnt we just have a large conversation about defederating with a Nazi bar because of the actions of a few users with lax administration?

Judging by your message here it seems that we're entirely hypocritical as a community if we hold one admin to a higher standard than others.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I agree honestly. But one would need to initiate a vote for that, and i'm not in the mood to be harassed for days straight ;)

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