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Summary

Donald Trump signed an executive order declaring only two sexes, male and female, based on reproductive cells at conception, banning gender-affirming care, and limiting federal recognition of gender diversity.

Experts, including Dr. Richard Bribiescas, president of the Human Biology Association, criticized the policy as nonsensical, stating, “Clearly, this order is not fully informed by current biological science.”

Biologists noted the order oversimplifies human biology, ignores intersex individuals, and conflates sex and gender.

Critics warned it advances anti-trans rhetoric and risks legal challenges.

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[–] ricecake 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

“This reads to me as coming from people who desperately want the world to be simple — for sex to be a simple binary and for us to return to some imagined time when this was more broadly accepted,” [Dr. Josh Snodgrass] said. “The problem is that it’s not only science that shows us that human biological variation is more complicated, but other cultures do and have also appreciated this for thousands of years.”

Snodgrass added that there is one more thing missing from the executive order that belongs in all conversations about sex and gender: empathy.

“The authors of this executive order seem like they are trying to twist science to fit their worldview, but that this worldview is painfully out of step with reality,” he said.

If you read through an article with multiple doctors saying something, and then your conclusion is to be confused and wonder how they could be wrong like that, I have news for you.

Also, you contradicted yourself pretty quickly. First you said there's only two sexes, then you said there's male, female and "neuter". That's three. Do you think that infertile people should be prevented from listing a sex on their drivers license? Should they get to pick one? What bathroom do you want them to use? What if they're infertile and they have genitalia you didn't expect? What if they're infertile and they modified their genitals, which bathroom should they use?

[–] Tb0n3 -1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Neuter is not a sex. It is a lack of sex.

[–] ricecake 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Biological sex is commonly used to reference reproductive function. You have listed three reproductive functions. Ergo, three sexes by your reckoning because there are three states. "Male/female/null" is still three things.

C'mon. At least make your trolling fun. Pretending that three things is two is boring. Share some weird ideas about where people you would put in the third category should go to the bathroom.

[–] Tb0n3 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I am not trolling I am trying to explain to you that no sex at all is not a sex. It is the lack of it. It is not a third sex. Say I have a full glass of water, then I have an empty glass of water. Not having a glass is not an empty glass and could be anything. It could be not having an apple and exactly the same thing. It is not a function of a glass.

Say you have a boolean. It can be true or false. If it doesn't exist it is no longer a value of any kind. That is the null. The thing which doesn't exist. It doesn't mean the boolean has three options.

[–] ricecake 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You're not a very interesting troll. You keep going on about the same ”2=3" thing. If you have a nullable Boolean variable that variable can be in one of three states. If you have a cup holder, full cup/empty cup/no cup are three values.

Someone who wasn't trolling would think to themselves that maybe Doctors know more about physiology than they do.

You still can't think of a good answer for what bathroom this third sex should use can you? I think you should say we need to build a third standard restroom. Since, as you say, not having a glass is the same as not having an apple, this bathroom would be available to anyone who doesn't have a sex, which is to say anyone who currently has something not in their possession.
Ooh, or maybe anyone not producing gametes can use either restroom? Or would it be that they can use anything as a restroom?
That's a fun one. "Postmenopausal ~~women~~ persons are legally allowed to pee anywhere because stopping gamete production makes you lose your sex".

[–] Tb0n3 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously you don't understand the point. I'll just leave you to it. Good luck with that.

[–] ricecake 1 points 22 minutes ago

You objectively suck at trolling. You're just giving up on your stupid joke before you can even get anyone really riled up?