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Organizers of the 2017 Women’s March are planning the "People's March" on January 18, 2025, ahead of Donald Trump’s second inauguration.

Unlike the record-breaking 2017 protest with 500,000 people, this multi-issue demonstration, addressing abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, climate change, and more, expects a smaller turnout of 50,000.

Organizers acknowledge shifting political dynamics and aim to build a sustainable movement by connecting participants with advocacy organizations.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Resistance to Trump was fairly successful. It's one reason his first administration was so ineffective.

It's kind of scary that people are responding so passively and pessimistically this time. We need to rally and energize if we're going to make it through the next 4 years and protect the people his administration seeks to harm.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago

At that time his own administration fought against him. This time round we don’t have that. We also lost house senate and the courts.

We are fucked. Enjoy the ride.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I don’t disagree with you, but things are different this time around.

  • They learned, regrouped, and have an actual plan. They’re also emboldened because they won the popular vote.
  • Trump seems unable to actually face consequences for his many wide-ranging crimes. He will never see justice. People are resigned that no matter what he does in life, punishment will never come for him. It’s easy to feel resigned when you’re up against someone like that and there’s no more hope to be had.
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If a corrupt system will not bring justice, that is all the more reason to fight the corrupt system.

I think one problem in the US is that the less reactionary part of the elites heavily played down the systemic issues of the US and pretended Trump was just a temporary hiccup instead of a symptom of a deeply corrupted system.

You can see it in Bidens leaving speach, talking about an oligarchy under Trump, completely ignorant of the long existing oligarchy in the US.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, a lot of people resisted at great personal expense, and then they see that the institutions that they 'defended' didn't do their part when they regained power.

I'm sure people will still resist Trump, but they're not going to count on the Democratic party to do their part any more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

that is all the more reason to fight the corrupt system

Or to consider how else justice can be done.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Bush never faced consequences for his, nor did Nixon (arguably), Kissinger, Reagan, or W. It's been all crimes at the top for decades.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s kind of scary that people are responding so passively and pessimistically this time.

I'm arguably part of the problem here. The fact that he won again, and that Dems ran the 2016 playbook again, and that they have openly moved to the right on various issues since 2020, and will probably run the 2016 playbook again in 2028 even if they would deserve another vote, has really just taken the wind out of my sails.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm fucking tired of fighting for nothing. I'm done, I'm looking for a way out

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's one reason his first administration was so ineffective.

They were ineffective because they're incompetent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

I love supporting protests and am quick to point out how they can shift attitudes (e.g. occupy) but I would struggle to say one positive result from the pussy hat protest. Can you help me there?

If I had to guess, I would say it helped him with his base more than hurt him or helped the opposition/our side rally support.

The protests against his abusive anti-protest tactics were a lot more successful in rallying support on our side, for example. Didn't last more than a couple months, but still

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And what? Put our faith in democrats again. Democrats who had every opportunity to stop this insanity and they put up the most pathetic fight I've ever seen. Tripping over themselves to show they have no problem transferring power to fascists. I don't know how you don't see it. Trump didn't gain any voters in 2024. The DNC didn't show up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, not at all. We should build an independent liberatory movement that exists primarily outside of the political system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I agree. <3you