this post was submitted on 28 Dec 2024
130 points (95.1% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27334 readers
2093 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected]. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected] or [email protected]


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Idk but as one there is no way a bunch slightly racist old white Christian men can organize anything beyond the local and maybe state level.

Masonry is really cool and used to be highly influential for all levels of society but it’s not that anymore. It’s really sad. My grandparents generations were joiners. After the war everyone joined a society. My parents joined some. But nowadays that’s very rare. Everyone in my lodge was 50-80.

I think the propaganda comes from a similar place of earlier Jesuit propaganda. A bunch of men meeting in secret, seeking education away from church and state, highly involved in the community. Now it’s just having meals, meetings, and planning which charity event to do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

ummm "a bunch slightly racist old white Christian men can organize anything beyond the local and maybe state level." (Looks at Congress and the Senate)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Fair point, maybe I should add mostly working class

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sigh "There's no way old black men can organize anything" See how stupid that suddenly sounds?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Well I didn’t mean it to be stupid.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Uh, not all are Christian or white. There are many lodges encompassing Filipino or Asian brothers. There’s also the Prince Hall masons for African-Americans. Additionally, the Scottish Right are not Christian-based like the Knights Templar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You have to go through the Blue Lodge before you can go into the Scottish Right, and you must be religious to join the former. So yeah, the vast majority of members are Christians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Being religious and being a Christian aren’t the same thing. There are Hindu Freemasons too. The only requirement is believing in a creator.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Right, but the vast majority of Masons are Christian even in the Scottish Rite.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

my WM is a black African

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

You’re right. I am not saying that. I am generalizing based of experience and 95% plus of the masons I encounter. Prince hall exists where I was too ;)

[–] agamemnonymous 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The sub-60 crowd is much more interested in digging into the symbolism of the work. I think pushing for more education is the key to revitalization. What's the point of purging to go over budget readings?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed! That was my interest and they just were pushing to end the meeting. Boring!

[–] agamemnonymous 1 points 1 week ago

Seems like the older crowd is 90% there for the socializing. I think as the 30-50 crowd climbs the steps we'll see the philosophical side shift into focus. I have an optimistic outlook on the next few decades.