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[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

When a person or entity is responsible for the untimely deaths of literally thousands of American citizens, the question should be whether or not this was a justifiable homicide. Is a police officer put on trial for shooting and killing a gunman mowing down children at a school? Why is this case different?

[–] whyNotSquirrel 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

is a police officer put on trial for killing a baby?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It would ultimately depend on the context but sure. "Innocent" Germans were put on trial post WW2 for enabling the system that resulted in the murder of millions of people, how is this any different?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you're misinterpreting the comment. Police officers in the US are regularly not put on trial even for egregious killings. They're getting trial more often after the BLM protests, but they're still usually getting found not guilty because we're inundated with copaganda.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

True. Worth noting as bad as police are most countries outside of America actually have civilian oversight of the police. You can argue the effectiveness of it but it's lightyears ahead of the lack of training and corruption that America faces.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they went with justifiable homicide they could have gotten an easy conviction. Instead they went with terrorism and Murder 1, both of which there is too much sympathy for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

justifiable homicide

Is that a thing in court??

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

No, but they sometimes undercharge as manslaughter, negligent discharge of a firearm, or assault.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not disagreeing with your sentiment but legally speaking that's a completely different situation. The main difference is the immediacy and nature of anticipated harm.

Again, not challenging your take on it, just highlighting that the law doesn't see it that way.

[–] explodicle 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was immediate; that CEO was killing people every day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again, I appreciate the sentiment but that's not really what 'immediate' means in this context.

[–] explodicle 1 points 1 day ago

If I was a juror I wouldn't buy that for a second. That CEO was actively killing people.