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Weird grouping with Gen Z being 3 years older than the max
But the way they use the computer and internet shows they aren’t risk adverse, just different risks
The anxiety is probably because like millennials, they’ve been told the world is ending their whole lives and instead of doing anything about it we’ve just made the middle class poor
Don't forget the rapid fire misinformation they are addicted too. Manipulation is off the charts
People like Tate and Peterson have done immeasurable damage to Gen Z... Instagram was deeply damaging to women's mental health but the manosphere has done damage that will probably never be undone.
Millennials were not told that. Millennials grew up on in the golden era and then it all fell apart on them when they became adults. They were raised on high hopes.
I am a mid to early melenial. I was born in 1986. My first time concerned about the future was y2k. Yes, nothing ended up happening but it was a lot of doom and gloom(and long hours for the people preventing the doom and gloom becoming reality). I remember freshman year of hs when September 11th happened. Most of my friends graduated college in 2008-2009 during the financial collapse. We recover but significantly struggling more than expected and more than our parents. Now in the background there is still the Afghanistan and Iraq wars which seem to be at a stale mate.
The you have the chronic issues... Aids appeared in the 80s, probably never to leave. Global warming... Need I say more?... The multiple diseases spreading like Sars.
Then you have the crazies pushing that a apocalypse will occur in 2012.
We get out of that all and enter into trump. Then covid 19 occurs. Now inflation.
What do we have to look forward to? The housing bubble collapse. Increase global warming. Automation reshaping the job land scape. The loss of the ability to truly own something. The same wage as 30 years ago with prices exponentially growing.
It was the golden age before mellenials... We just hung on through the downfall...
Fuck now I'm depressed.........
Maybe that's what makes millennials different. So many of the big scares ended up being big nothings.
AIDS was going to kill everyone... except it's a STI, and now can be almost fully managed with drugs.
Weed was going to kill everyone and make everyone else go crazy... except it's arguably less harmful than even caffeine, let alone tobacco or alcohol.
Y2K was going to end the world... except people put significant money and effort into solving it.
The hole in the ozone layer is growing... except we put regulations in place to stop it from growing and saved ourselves.
We managed to save ourselves, as a species, from all of these things. It wasn't until 9/11 when we didn't really know what to do and never really recovered from it as a society.
It makes sense that that's often where people say the 90s really ended. And it's a decent cut-off for when someone is Gen Z. If you don't really remember 9/11 (and especially nothing before it), you're not a millennial.
We didn't get it that bad. We had the golden age of the internet and were the first with actual broadband. We have tons to look forward to like robot butlers and self driving cars. Also flexible screens that are hard to break.
More automation can be real good if we say use it to make a 4 hour work day while keeping the full time pay. Prices for weed are going down.
We may be going through a rising wave of right-wingism currently, but last time Trump and his goons were in charge they got replaced. A couple of ways to deal with this is to not be a minority or poor. If people can figure out those two things they can survive another four years of Trump's America. The better way to deal with this is organize locally, because the Federal courts are fucked, the Senate is fucked, and the President is Trump so we aren't gonna get much done nationally.
Millennials include people 10 years older than you. We were definitely being sold a future of sunshine and rainbows until at least late high school, if not our 20s.
I am an elder millennial graduated in 02, the 90’s were fucking great. It’s literally been a downhill slide since 9/11. We were told we were post history.
Millennials were sold the same promises as Gen X, only it was quickly becoming apparent that those promises were straight up lies. The young millennials cam of age in the wake of the 2008 crash while the older ones lost everything in said crash. Zoomers are still being sold the American dream, only now it's more of a hostage demand.
And we all will land gently into a third world of our own making. The extremely rich, who are countryless/boarderless, will settle into their private islands as they use people to rack up "money points" and abuse underage childten.
I'm certain Ill be dead/dying in time to tell story's have how we use to have rights and how Rosa Parks sat at the front of a bus once and helped change a nation. I will instill ideas of democracy that my current countrymen seem to hate so much, now. Then I will probably pick up a pack of smokes so I can look cool as I die rambling on about the ballot or the bullet.
Yeah, my brother is an elder millennial (43), I'm 33. It's wild the different stories we were told about how our lives were going to be. If he hasn't gone into the military, I doubt he'd be any better off then I am, and I am... Not doing great, financially.
Yeah I’m 30 and had to explain to my father that he could raise a family on a single engineer’s income, but I wouldn’t be able to. That was when I was a teenager
Affording a house on a single income isn't doable, never mind raising a family!
You absolutely can. All you need is to be an engineer or other highly skilled professional or a tradesperson who works a ton of overtime and live in a low cost of living area on a tight budget and save for a decade
I am an engineer 🥲
Me too. And if I wasn’t fleeing Ohio I’d be looking at buying a house here. Not a big one but there are decent small houses in the suburbs that are affordable as an engineer on a single income if you save aggressively. Instead I’m spending my down payment on moving to the west coast.
I'm in Canada, and to be fair I could buy a house as well... Just not in the city I live in (or likely in any other city with a population over 50k).
The US was fighting wars in the Middle East for the first 30 years of our lives, we watched the worst mass casualty event since pearl harbor on live tv, we lived through the worst economic crisis since the great depression, covid, tea party, trump, Katrina, isis, Putin, etc etc. When were these high hopes you speak of?
2008-2020, very high, me.
Basically, pre-2008.
Wars in the middle east were the norm, but they were always elsewhere, and the govt sold us that they were fighting the bad guys, that everything was under control, and that home would continue to be safe and prosperous. There basically weren't any other militaries that could reasonably rival the US World Police. Yeah, it was seen as problematic, but in a way that seemed TOO safe, never unsafe. Random acts of terrorism was sold to us as the only real threat (even though it realistically wasn't).
As kids, millennials were told that the American dream was real, that if you go to college you will get a good job and be able to provide for your family. It wasn't until around the time of the 2008 recession that people really started noticing how worthless a lot of their college degrees were, and how much debt they had been saddled with.
Similarly, climate change was being successfully sold as "maybe a complete hoax" in the media. Even if you did believe it was real, it wasn't crazy to feel optimistic that there was still time for the science to settle, and voters/politicians to make the right decisions before things got too bad.
Putin, Trump, and Covid were all solidly during Millennial adulthood, not representative of their youth.
Kyoto protocol was 1997, and that was just extending a climate treaty from 1992
You’re thinking of boomers