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Asian American groups are preparing for potential deportations of undocumented Chinese nationals, particularly military-age men, under Trump’s proposed immigration policies.

Sources indicate Chinese nationals may be prioritized due to alleged national security concerns, reflecting broader anti-China sentiment.

Community organizations are creating multilingual resources, coordinating legal support, and educating families on their rights.

Trump’s rhetoric ties Chinese immigrants to fears of espionage, intensifying anxieties.

Advocates highlight the historical targeting of minority groups during national security crises and warn of significant impacts on vulnerable communities, urging solidarity and swift action.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Noteworthy, Trump's support from Asian American voters grew 5 points to 39% in 2024.

The AsiansMAGA PAC raised $77,063.89 for Trump, outspending some other Asian American PACs but admittedly not as much as the AAPI.

Not saying they deserve it or anything, but there certainly will be some leopards eating the faces among them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’s worth mentioning that there should be some distinction between first and second+ generation immigrants. Often even amongst each other there is division so those who support Trump may not have to worry about being deported.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You are making the mistaken assumption that the brute squad will bother to differentiate between them. How many second+ generation immigrants carry around proof of citizenship, anyway? They can be detained just like anyone else who doesn't look right.

(And it's super easy to carry that now, the passport card is cheap, fits in your wallet, and is a good first line of defense against being disappeared.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plus his statement changing the law where birth in the US doesn't grant citizenship.

How long do you think it will be backdated?

[–] vaultdweller013 0 points 3 days ago

Depends on how stupid they are, I could see a scenario where they try to remove the citizenship of everyone from blue states. Mind ypu that would backfire like the demoncore but that doesnt remove the possibility.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

History has shown that US citizens will get deported.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Once again. This is because less people voted democratic. Same number over a smaller total is a larger percentage.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seeing 10M less Democrats vote when the Republican numbers were about the same was the biggest gut check I had. People would rather just not vote, than vote for a half black woman. That was really sad. And don’t anyone dare tell me it was about Gaza, that’s just a load of BS.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Kamala Harris did not lose because she's not a white man and perpetuating that myth is not helping.

She lost because she didn't speak to the working class.

She didn't lay out any plans nor promise any relief to the millions of people struggling.

She said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden with Palestine.

She parading around a Republican and tried to draw in the non-existent middle voter.

She promised more of the same when "the same" already wasn't good enough.

Was she the better choice? Absolutely. Did she lose because she's not a white man? FUCK NO and parroting that bullshit excuse is just distracting from the issues that actually need fixing.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She also lost because she's not a man. And she also lost because she's not white. You're deluding yourself if you don't think race and gender had an influence in the election.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If being a woman's all it takes not to vote for her then how come she lost Michigan which has a woman governor?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is the political version of saying "if global warming is real, then how come it snowed on Christmas?"

I hope one day when you grow up you realize how stupid you sound.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, let's see... maybe because there's a vast gulf in the perceived power and responsibility between a governor and a president?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So they really hate women, but it's okay if it just controls their state instead of their Nation? That's what you're going with? An irrational burning hatred of women that matters more than than anything else as a voter yet they grudgingly say well I guess it's okay if it's just controlling the millions of people who live in my state. As long as it's only affecting me personally and not the nation at large I'll overlook my burning prejudice just this once. That's what you think is in the mind of those voters? Fascinating.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Who said they had a "burning hatred" of women? Most of the men in the focus groups who said that they wouldn't vote for a woman wasn't because they hate women but said things like, women were "too emotional", would not be able to handle dealing with adversarial foreign leaders, or that it's "just not appropriate" for a woman to hold the office of POTUS. Oh, and even some women also said that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Well she did actually, it was all on her website which has sadly been updated or I would show you.

You can still see her Politifact campaign promises page tho LINK

Economy

Ban corporate price gouging on food and groceries

Taxes

Will not raise taxes for those earning less than $400,000 a year

This promise extends another Biden pledge.

Roll back Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans

Enact a minimum tax for billionaires

Increase the tax rate on long-term capital gains to 28% for those earning at least $1 million a year

and this is in addition to the fact that the Biden Administration already blocked the Krogers Albertson Merger and had the FTC and DOJ investigate prices and firms across the USA. LINK

She also promised to bring back Child Tax Credits and a new $6,000 child tax credit and also to forgive even more student debts.

If there was any issue with Message it was that the people who bought Washington Post and Twitter weren't sharing their message.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Yup, uninformed voters are a blight. All the information for BOTH SIDES was out there and available.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She shouldn't even be relevant. The other guy is literally a "ok, who else is there to vote for because this guy is the worst option" candidate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

I voted for her because I'm not an idiot but yeah...it was sadly an awful campaign.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In five elections, Democrats voted in the same numbers for 4 of the 5 candidates and WAY higher for the 5th. I'll let you figure out the common theme among the first 4 candidates.

As far as your points:

Yes she did.

Neither did Trump.

Trump said he'd do more.

So did Trump.

This is fair.

Circling back: if the difference isn't that much between her and Biden (per your argument), why did he get SO MANY MORE votes? 69M, 65M, 65M, 81M, 69M. Only one of those 5 numbers is votes for the white man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Again I feel the need to preface this: I thought she was a decent pick. I was so confident I even told a friend I thought it'd be 60/40 in her favor months ago. I am NOT saying she sucks - I'm saying her campaign sucked. I'm also not saying that 0 people refused to vote for a woman - I'm saying it's not why she lost. Anyway,

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Let's be real - we voted Biden in 2020 not because we thought he was the best person for the job but because we believed he could beat Trump.... Which he barely did. And then he went on to have a pretty good run and got a lot done! Anyone who paid attention could see that the progress was slow but there was still progress happening.

But his team sucked at communicating. They quietly did their thing and barely promoted it. Maybe because even if they did...the news would focus on something more controversial instead. Either way, most people had no idea..and many of those that did didn't feel like it was enough.

The fact that we're having this conversation tells me that we're both at least somewhat knowledgeable on politics so of course we knew about the good work he was doing...of course we know the policies Harris/Walz wanted....but did the layman know that? Nope.

So this election rolls around and people see Biden 2.0, why would they want that again when they're been struggling for the past 4 years? Why weren't they getting addressed then? Non-voters didn't feel heard. Hell, I didn't feel heard. Grocery gouging is old news and the fix feels like a consolation prize at this point.

By far the biggest failing is that their "leftwing" campaign chose to reach right. It garnered a few voters and alienated a LOT more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I.e. people that could have prevented this but decided they'd rather have their faces eaten.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I wonder why undocumented immigrants didn't vote for Kamala....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah thats fair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

only citizens can vote though? i don't think any of those people will be deported.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You should look into Operation Wetback 1 and 2, where the US deported a bunch of Mexican immigrants (legal, illegal, documented and undocumented alike) and US citizens to Mexico for "looking too Mexican."

Citizenship means nothing to racists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I saw a documentary on that called, "Born In East L.A."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Man I loved that movie as a kid. I've been afraid to go back and watch it as an adult.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Trump in 2020 created a new DOJ office called the Denaturalization Section who would seek out cases and argue to strip citizenship. It is assumed he will start the same process again next year when he reenters office.

But even without that, the roughly 15-20 Million people in the USA which Trump promises to remove because they are undocumented likely have friends and family

[–] Barbarian 9 points 3 days ago

Citizens may have non-citizen friends and family who are potential targets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That anti-blackness the majority of Asian residents like to indulge in is biting them in the ass now.