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"Well I read in a book that I was there. I can't actually remember more than a few hundred years back."
Ashildr from Doctor Who was brilliant.
I'm wondering now, how our little brains would adapt to living like for thousands of years. Would we really start forgetting things that are waaaay back?
I've already forgotten most of my childhood and I'm only around 30. So I'd assume, yes.
That’s… that’s not normal.
Thats usually trauma suppressing memories, sorry mate,
Nah, it's just shitty memory. I have had quite the happy childhood, actually.
I don't find myself reminiscing a lot and in the rare cases I do, there are quite some gaps. Even in more recent times. If I really try to dig, maybe it comes back, but I assume it's "use it or lose it".
Yeah, I have shitty memory too... Sometimes my friends talk about something we did 15-20 years ago and half the time it unlocks a memory, the other half I can't recall at all
i don't fucking remember most of yesterday, my brain is just extremely judicious about what it retains and catalogues.
on the other hand i can regale you about physics and how railways work and stuff like that..
Yeah, that’s it normal, hence why they remember and you don’t dude… you don’t think that’s not strange? That multiple friends recall events easily and you don’t…?
Different people remember different things? It's really not that complicated. What one brain decides is worth holding onto might not be worth it to another.
Hell, even what we do remember is half hallucinated to fill in the gaps (probably not the right word for it, but you get the idea)
No, it's been like that all my life
That’s still not normal dude.
Whatevs
That still ain’t normal dude. You’re supposed to be able to recall memories from any point of your life…
You actually can't. Human memory is really quite terrible. Most of your older memories are likely distorted by other people telling you about them, or even just the natural decay that occurs whenever you recall a memory.
That is just factually incorrect And what people lie to themselves to make them feel better. Humans are great at recollection, why would you claim otherwise…?
The age 0-3 is the only time you should have zero recollection, anything else is something you should talk to neurologist or psychologist about, but sure lie to make yourself feel better I guess…?
Fun quote from that article, you absolute scholar
I did say usually, I didn’t say only cause you muppet.
And did you actually read the article?
Trauma is a cause, but it’s unfounded for the main cause. Which I never stated, maybe read the entire article and don’t take a specific quote out of context…?
Unfounded means it isn't usually. It means there is no correlation. It's not usually.
There’s a sentence before that with a major detail you are ignoring.
Unfounded for the main cause, it’s still a cause of the amnesia.
See this quote further down…. You did actually read the article… yeah…? You aren’t just taking a quote of context and using that for the entire basis of your asinine argument… are you…?
So yes, it is absolutely a cause as that SHOULD prove without a doubt….
Which means not usually.
That it could be caused doesn't mean it is usually caused.
The unreliability of memory has been known pretty well for a long time. It's why eye witness testimony in court should not be given nearly as much weight as the average person gives it.
Right, but remembering nothing isn’t normal either… especially at the young age of 30, you seem to be ignoring major details here.
Just because some events are distorted doesn’t mean all should be. This seems to be the key part of the conversation that you’ve missed. I wasn’t absolute in any of my statements, yet you have been.
Which is factually incorrect, you should be able to recall specific events at all part of your life, your link doesn’t say otherwise now does it…?
The first sentence of your link says the opposite of everything you have claimed…
Says its malleable, where does it say it gets erased…? You aren’t conflating these two vastly different things are you…?
But I didn't say you don't remember anything. I just pointed out that anything you do think you remember...is very likely wrong. It might be correct, but you can't know that.
So, what's your point? Other people might have a lot more boring childhood anecdotes to tell, but it's not like I'm suffering in any kind. I still remember people or useful skills - the stuff I do use.
As an added benefit of growing up quite poor, I probably just had less unique experiences I actually could recall. Like, I've been on three travel vacations overall. Kinda like those COVID years blurred together for most people.
It wasnt specified what was meant by childhood. The further back you go the less you remember. I remember a lot more about 6-10 grade than 1-6 grade.
You should still be able to recall specific events at all portions of your life, it’s abnormal not to, but you can defend it and ignore potentially life limiting issues if you want.
I think you have a life limiting issue.
Being able to remember everything from your past is extremely rare.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthymesia
You realize normal is somewhere in the middle…? Between remembering nothing and everything…?
I never said everything, and remembering nothing isn’t normal.
But the person didn't say he remembered nothing. He said half the time he didn't remember what friends talked about. Another person said they were fuzzy on their childhood.
You told both that wasn't normal and suggested childhood trama. Being slightly to one side of a normal distribution curve doesn't mean anything.
At the ages they specified, that’s NOT normal, maybe at 60 years yes, but not THAT young. You can’t just ignore key details and make your own story up.
Also, when people say half the time, it’s not a precise amount obviously, and you don’t think that’s not part of people lying to themselves? It’s probably less than half, but they don’t want to admit it, hence the approximation that’s quite obviously not the right amount.
They also stated it was half the time they don’t recall and the other half the story reminded them, so until that point, they didn’t recall anything actually… so why are you making shit up and lying here?
I don't t entirely know why your getting down voted, because I tend to agree. I entirely remember my childhood. My wife can't remember ever existing before about 9 years old except in very few extremely specific cases. We don't think anything terrible happened, but neither of us really know. I kinda think it's the entire reason she's avoided therapy, dont want to unlock Pandora's Box.
You would forget most everything. Even big events would become fuzzy. Do you remember what you had for lunch on this date when you were 5?
It's Friday. Rectangle pizza
A breadtangle of pizza
Is that just regular pizza with rectangles on it?
Depending on how old they are and where they grew up, my assumption would be the Pizza Hut Big Foot, a massive rectangular pizza that was roughly 1 foot by 2 feet, cut into squares
They were great, no clue why they stopped making them
Or they're from Detroit
Fair point, I forgot about Detroit style
This one never had lunch at a public school in the 80s/90s...
Also a common thing at mine, oranges cut to a size where you could put them in your mouth to wear like a boxing mouth guard. Called them orange smiles...
https://youtu.be/fK5CLplRIno?si=ePl380K01Kj3Uh1Y
"The Man from Earth"
Such a gem of a movie
Yes and no, probably. You will remember important bits and will reconstruct/imagine other things just like you do now. Even with our short lifes not all the things you "remember" actually happened.
This is a really interesting part of the Red Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson
I SEEN IT!!
Perfect casting, too