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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Black voters went from

9 Biden - 1 Trump

to

8 Harris - 2 Trump.

What got Trump elected was white people. This article tries to paint a narrative which does not exist.

If it were up to black and latinos Harris would be president.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago

Still twice the amount of votes compared to the last election, which leaves me with my mouth open.

It’s like voting for the wolf when you are part of a flock of sheep because the other sheep you could elect instead is not exactly the way you picture the perfect sheep.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What got trump elected was PPL NOT VOTING.

TRUMP GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF VOTES EVERY YIME

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So what got Trump elected was the Dems not listening to voters and losing them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Yep. On the other hand, it seems like people aren't worried enough about Trump to vote against him. No one loved Biden, but he was better than Trump. People just don't seem to mind anymore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What got Trump elected was Democrats kicking out their base to make room for Liz Cheney and refusing to stop a genocide.

I'm not blaming white men for Trump winning. I'm blaming the DNC.

[–] otp 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Interesting! I don't think you're making it up, but do you have a source for that? I'd like to learn more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Hi, not comment-op, but... Here's one of the first set of exit polls to look over: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

Though it's a little too early for real analysis, since ballots are still being counted. Really the most interesting questions are things like: in tipping-point states (like PA, MI, WI, maybe GA or NC) how did the vote/turnout shift? That sort of analysis takes a bit longer, though, so we're stuck with clickbait articles like the one posted above.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you for saying this. I noticed in 2008 when Prop 8 was voted on in California that Black people (men in particular) are really the preferred scapegoat when things go wrong. All this despite their negligible numbers. 12 million white women (from 20 million) could vote for something detrimental to society and it'll be crickets but let 10,000 (from 100,00) Black men vote for the same bad policy and somehow the story will be about the Black men.

This is an example of the so-called subtle bigotry that really isn’t so subtle.