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“This is a collapse of the Democratic Party.” Consumer advocate, corporate critic and former presidential candidate Ralph Nader comments on the reelection of Donald Trump and the failures of the Democratic challenge against him.

Despite attempts by left-wing segments of the Democratic base to shift the party’s messaging toward populist, anti-corporate and progressive policies, says Nader, Democrats “didn’t listen.” Under Trump, continues Nader, “We’re in for huge turmoil.”

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

That's a logical fallacy called an Ad Hominem. Where you don't argue against an idea, instead attack the person voicing it.

You're opinion of a person, doesn't mean anything to their argument. It actually works against finding truth and solutions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So then yes, you would like to know what Newt Gingrich's take is as long as it is a valid argument?

You don't think that maybe some people don't deserve attention in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Good ideas deserve attention. It doesn't matter where they come from.
Your idea here isn't a good one, and no longer has mine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No one has a right to media attention just because they have a good idea. I assume if a serial killer had a good idea, you wouldn't want it on all the front pages. Maybe let them tell someone else and have that person bring it up if it's such a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Who said the person deserves attention? Even a right to it?
I didn't.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, well then I stand by my point. Ralph Nader doesn't deserve attention on election issues no matter what good ideas he has. If they're good enough ideas, he has plenty of media connections he can tell them to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Then engage in the discussion at hand, rather than trying to derail it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You do not get to dictate how or why I post until you become a mod. If you don't like what I have to say, you can either block me or not respond. Ordering me to do what you want isn't going to work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Not a dictate. Just a suggestion if you're interested in being constructive. Maybe I'm wrong about that.