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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm fat by nature (and environment) so I have examined and tried many diets, and I think I can only say for sure a few thing about healthiness of diets:

  • if you eat carbs, fats beyond what is necessary to eat, are unhealthy
  • If you don't eat carbs you need to eat fats, some fats are better than others
  • If you don't eat carbs and you don't eat fats you starve - to thin then to death
  • Sugar is unhealthy and wrecks your teeth
  • Highly processed foods are not healthy
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So it's as easy as eating a balanced diet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Indeed, though it's hard to get fatter on fat in absence of carbs or dairy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Becoming less fat? It's hard.

I cannot do it eating a low fat diet. I find portion control impossible, I get very hungry when I eat carbs

The only success I have had has been on very low carb diets, but they are hard to stick to long term. I found the only one I can do easily is "zero carb"

Ed. It's unbalanced - choose either:

  • Carbs, protein & minimal high quality fats; or
  • Fats, protein & minimal to zero carbs

If you eat balanced fat, carbs, protein then you will not be healthy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

On the sugar note: Meat you buy in the store (for instance bacon) often have sugar additives. Better to visit the butcher.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Butchers won't save you from sugar in bacon, many bacon brine recipes call for sugar, but a butcher will be able to tell you what the bacon was pickled in

Raw, unprocessed meat (steak, chops, chicken) is generally fine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah didn't know that, thank you. I've just started to read the ingredients list on most of the products I buy from the store and realised I can't even buy ham or many other kinds of meat, because of the sugar additives that they syringe into it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

additives that they syringe into it.

It's usually only water they syringe into meat - so they can sell a 1.5kg leg of lamb as a 1.7kg ;) but only if your food supply is really badly regulated

The sugar in bacon is from the brine it is soaked in; in ham it's from the glaze it was coated in before it was sliced - the sugar on sliced ham is all in the edge

Salami might have sugar to promote fermentation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glazed sliced ham? No I'm talking a bout a big piece of meat without glace. I'm not in the states though so might be different there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sliced ham is cut from the big piece. And you're right, aside from Christmas, ham isn't usually glazed. I guess there's sugar in the pot when the ham is cooked, so I think my advice is right - the sugar will not have penetrated far

I guess I haven't thought much about sugar in smallgoods, as it was within the 20g allowance on keto (even with a bowl of salad) and now I'm on "zero carb" I don't bother with ham because it doesn't have enough fat

I'm also not in the states, g'day from Australia