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A gaming community free from the hype and oversaturation of current releases, catering to gamers who wait at least 12 months after release to play a game. Whether it's price, waiting for bugs/issues to be patched, DLC to be released, don't meet the system requirements, or just haven't had the time to keep up with the latest releases.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I rarely click on YouTube links. For some reason I gave this one a try. Turns out she's bigoted.

That'll teach me for clicking

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At one point I was looking for some help with implementing something akin to UE's Metahumans but in Godot.

Somehow I stumbled across this one, single person on youtube who had a half decent implementation of what I was looking for...

... and after watching some other videos on her channel... yep, she's an open NeoNazi.

That was enough internet for me, that day.

[–] iAmTheTot 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

yep, she’s an open NeoNazi

In the interest of not giving a potential neo nazi any more views, what made you think this? Apart from if she said "I'm a neo nazi."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well it was pretty much just openly saying it.

Her YT channel was a mix of fairly long, sort of livestream clips of development progress and notes... and then just clips of her livestreams where she wasn't really developing and was just responding to chats, going off about political topics, 'white genocide' this, 'every democrat is a f@g communist' that, a whole bunch of other dogwhistles or overt references to memes and slogans of various extremist right wing militia type groups...

Also, for clarity, I am not talking about OP's link, I'm talking about some very obscure other person I found months ago. Much , much lower view/su count, not even monetized. Also unlike OP's link, this person actually wrote code instead of just having opinions about things.

There is a difference between being on the conservative side of a culture war and being balls deep into extremist right wing ideology.

[–] iAmTheTot 2 points 1 month ago

Oh I completely misunderstood your comment.

[–] Grumpy -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How about you just watch and make the call yourself? Nothing about the video made me think she's a neo nazi nor did I think she's a bigot. People are allowed to want and like different things. Just because they have different wants doesn't mean they should just get random negative label on them and then be hated without actually even seeing what they say.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They’re talking about the other commenter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, just, I'm not talking about OP's link, I'm talking about someone else.

[–] iAmTheTot 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, I literally began my comment with an answer to your first question.

[–] Grumpy 0 points 1 month ago

Well, I pointed out the reason why your beginning comment is problematic. And as sp3tr4l pointed out, OP's link isn't even the one being referred to as the neo nazi.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, I was not considering this point of view at all when I shared this. I was thinking that's a different point of view on patient gaming that I didn't have.

[–] MrScottyTay 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know if it could be classed as patient gaming. As I understand it, patient gamers will eventually get around to current games, just not now. It doesn't sound like she ever wants to play what's been released now due to her skewed views

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago

I see what you mean but I think there's quite an intersection with patient gamers reasons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

YouTube is like the rest of the internet, some good, some bad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

YouTube, like other corporate social media and engagement platforms, thrives on anger and conflict, and pushes shitty takes higher up the recs list to get angry engagement.

So it's more likely to be bad than good.

[–] iAmTheTot 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What have y'all been clicking on YT? I watch, frankly, an unhealthy amount of YT and I don't get recommendations for hateful shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I barely use youtube. I actively avoid it as much as possible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

2things.

Funny that people are trying to evangelise time wasting brainrot

Also you must have so much useful time without the time wasting brainrot.

goes back to watching people process clay for some insane reason

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That depends on what you watch and subscribe. Watch angry, conflict-driven videos, and you'll get those.

I personally don't get any of that shit in my feed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As I've said three times now, I barely use YouTube and then only direct links. This isn't that. YouTube rewards civil bigots so civil bigots are common and have big audiences

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Which is why my general rule of thumb is to avoid the top channels. Some things I especially try to avoid:

  • lots of jump cuts
  • stupid thumbnails
  • clickbait headlines

Those are things that drive "engagement," and going after engagement for engagement's sake is a clear sign to me that the channel isn't worth my time. If the channel largely avoids that crap and still manages to have a respectable subscriber count, it's a lot more likely to be a decent channel. Some channels I really like:

  • Gamer's Nexus
  • Digital Foundry
  • Tech Ingredients

Each of those have high quality content, tend to avoid most of the above (still have BS thumbnails, but not nearly as bad as the big channels), and have a sizeable following. Good content absolutely exists, you just have to scrape away the crap on top to find decent channels.

That said, I no longer use my YT account, I just subbed to everything I care about on Grayjay and Newpipe (in case one fails, and NewPipe has failed more often than not for me), and I'll watch specific channels whenever I actually use YT's website.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Sticking to the things they know and avoiding the recs is how a lot of people use Youtube. But all of the things you avoid are thrown in your face in the recs. Clickbait titles, bait and switch content, dogwhistling videos that start people down the path of ever more bigoted content (for example, the video the OP posted).

I generally don't engage much with video content though, so I'll just continue to ignore it

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 2 points 1 month ago

all of the things you avoid are thrown in your face in the recs

Hence why I tend to avoid the YT website. I have disabled recommendations on NewPipe and Grayjay, and that's where 95% of my YT viewing comes from.