Men's Liberation
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality.
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Everybody is welcome, but this is primarily a space for men and masc people
Non-masculine perspectives are incredibly important in making sure that the lived experiences of others are present in discussions on masculinity, but please remember that this is a space to discuss issues pertaining to men and masc individuals. Be kind, open-minded, and take care that you aren't talking over men expressing their own lived experiences.
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Recommended Reading
- The Will To Change: Men, Masculinity, And Love by bell hooks
- Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements by Michael Messner
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It's really not for a lot of people. Unless you somehow believe they're all struggling with something that's actually easy for them.
It is easy. People just doubt themselves and fear social rejection so much that they make it hard.
Don't get me wrong, I had to climb out of that place to get to the point where I could discover how easy it is. But it really is easy to do once you know that it's all about being willing to listen instead of dreading having to speak. You just ride the flow once you push off.
Just to kind of push back on this, you're probably taking in and processing a bunch of information about your interactions subconsciously. Not all of us are able to do that effectively despite our best efforts.
It may be simple, but it really isn't easy for everyone.
Yeah, I can see that the easy part isn't a term that everyone is going to accept. Simple might be better, or perhaps just achievable. And neuro-atypicality is a barrier to things.
I will maintain that the process of learning to do it isn't hard in and of itself. It's largely a matter of unlearning things that hold us back.
And, I think that once the initial decision to shift the mind is made, the rest is easy enough, though the timeline may make it seem otherwise. It's no harder than a skill like flint knapping. Once you decide to develop a skill, you have a learning curve, and then you just get better over time by practice. You still run into individual abilities determining how fast that happens, and how skilled you become, but it's that initial hump that's the barrier to entry.