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[–] JohnDClay 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What would you qualify? My mind goes to fusion, and the moon landings. And this is quite a bit more complicated than Apollo. (Though we have better tools nowadays)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And this is quite a bit more complicated than Apollo

Oh my god

[–] JohnDClay 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Starship is aiming to have the same payload capacity while being fully reusable. Seems like adding that constraint makes it harder.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, now do it with only paper and protractors.

[–] JohnDClay 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I said we have better tools nowadays.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Makes it easier, doesn’t it.

[–] JohnDClay 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Would you call the pyramids the most difficult engineering problems in human history? They had a whole lot worse tools. I wasn't taking into account how much easier the tools make it, just the complexity of the challenge.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean. They were pretty challenging, I would expect.

It's just that Apollo dealt directly with rockets and boosters and so on.

[–] JohnDClay 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's just that Apollo dealt directly with rockets and boosters and so on.

What do you mean? Starship does too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was about "Those are literally the engineers who worked on this, one of the most difficult engineering problems in human history, having nailed it on their first try."

And how the tools, materials, processes, and organizational structures to deal with those complexities do in fact make it easier than say the original Apollo missions.

[–] JohnDClay 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Easier for the individual people, but not an easier engineering challenge. 150T to LEO reusability is a harder problem statement 150T to LEO single use.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fair, but is it one of the most difficult in human history?

[–] JohnDClay 1 points 1 month ago

More difficult than Saturn V, and that's one of the most difficult.