When is the admin going to run out of excuses?
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The submarine dock was in Sevastopol, which is Russian-occupied Ukraine rather than Russia.
sevastopol is in crimea right? Is crimea recognized broadly by the global nations to be ukrainian territory? Crimea is annexed by russia, there was a whole thing around this when it happened. I know ukraine contests this and wishes to get it back, but currently for most intents, and most purposes, crimea is a part of russia.
You can make up your own mind, but that's a strong yes to me:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Crimea#Stances
i guess i'd probably define it by either governmental ties, although i believe crimea was closer to a territory of ukraine, than an actual part of ukraine, and whether or not the government itself has some sort of significant influence in that region.
Geo politics is fun.
I guess the other alternative is digging through the history of ukraine and crimea to see if they ever established any sort of relationship that you could use as a basis for a modern claim of "ownership"
Crimea and Sevastopol both had majority votes for independence in 1991.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum
naturally post USSR implosion it gained independence. I feel like i'd probably leave crimea up for debate at the moment tho. I could see it going either way depending on how you classify it's relationship to ukraine.