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@VintageGenious Think about it this way: an email client can do both Gmail and Hotmail (and Fastmail etc.) because it’s all just email. The same goes for the Fediverse; it’s all just ActivityPub. For example this reply is from a Mastodon app :D
I have personal frustrations about how popular servers like Mastodon and Lemmy hide ActivityPub. I feel progress is stifled. Enough that I wrote my own ActivityPub service (https://apubtest2.srcbeat.com/apas.html)
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And Thunderbird can do email/rss/newsletters and even Matrix...
@rglullis RSS is so underrated I feel. Easy to understand, battle-tested, scales up easily, plethora of clients. Many uses of microblogging, especially in the “real world” use by places like governments, police departments, public transport services could be easily replaced by simple RSS/Atom feeds. Governments and TV stations don’t need to set up Mastodon instances since they never actually interact with people. It’s not “social” media to them; just another avenue of broadcast.
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True. For podcasts, seems like RSS is the main thing
Lots of things! I subscribe to blogs, Lemmy communities, Mastodon accounts, podcasts, YouTube channels, source code repositories (GitHub, Sourcehut, cgit…), Hacker News, subreddits. All in one ad-free, tracker-less, totally local, instantly searchable, open source application. Couldn’t have lived without it for the past 15 - 20 years!
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Though you cannot interact with it right ?
Sure I can ;) I clicked on the link to your post in my RSS reader then replied from a Mastodon application.
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Can Lemmy people see this comment?
Yes!
Probably! :) https://old.lemmy.world/post/19168403
To rephrase your question: "did my message get sent to Lemmy servers?"
Because in a sense, your comment isn't "on" anything; you sent a message to your server (thebrainbin.org) which then sent out a copy to many, many other servers.
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Yep 🙂
Yes I knew about ActivityPub and was told everything works together but realized I hardly see anything from other Fediverse networks, and that interoperability is not implemented everywhere. So that's why I am asking as I don't see anything mastodon in my lemmy client (except for these comments)
@VintageGenious For sure you’re absolutely right to ask the question. I have the same question :)
I guess I’m just venting. Popular Fediverse systems are implemented in a way that closely mimics exisiting CRUD social media like Twitter and Reddit. You upload a post, it’s stored in a database, and you’re done. Mastodon and Lemmy are the same, with the afterthought of sending ActivityPub messages to other systems.
And we see the result: how federation works remains an obscurity.