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This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly
Edit: I'm convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.
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No, the IDF is much worse.
Are you honestly saying that the IDF is worse than Hamas?
Yup, by not committing a genocide and reclaiming their homeland, they're much worse than the invaders who already committed one.
(Israel is the ancestoral homeland of the Jews, Muslims committed a genocide when they conquered the area)
Quick question - if Native Americans killed 1 out of every 50 US citizens in an attempt to drive them off of Native ancestral land, would this be:
A. Ethnic cleansing
OR
B. Not ethnic cleansing
?
Who was there first? The Indians or the Whites?
Native Americans.
Great, so we agree. White people committed a genocide against the Indians when they conquered the Americas, just like Muslims committed a genocide against the Jews when they conquered the Middle East.
Accepting that premise for the sake of the argument, since the history of the region's disruption of the Jewish population predates Islam, so does that genocide justify another genocide some hundreds of years later?
Thats just not true and that argument speaks volumes about the little knowledge you seem to have about the area.
Holy fucking shit dude, if you aren't aware that the Jewish diaspora significantly pre-dates Islam and that there was no longer a Jewish majority in the region by the 7th century AD, I can't fucking help you.
It doesn't. By the way, Israel is not committing a genocide
Okay, so far you're in agreement, then, that contrary to your initial claim, ethnic cleansing is NOT an acceptable response, you just disagree as to whether ethnic cleansing is ongoing. Is that correct?
I think there are some good arguments about what counts as an ethnic cleansing when the population is entirely homogenous.
Is what Russia doing to the Ukraine an ethnic cleansing, considering their lack of diversity? What about the lack of diversity in Gaza? Turns into a semantic argument, really.
Not sure I understand. Wouldn't a clear ethnic majority in an area being removed to make way for a minority only make ethnic cleansing more apparent than the reverse?
Yes, absolutely.
What I'm saying is that the laws of what is considered genocide become blurry depending on how diverse that area is.
Hamas is the one ethnically cleansing. The IDF isn't. Remember, Hamas has been very explicit about wanting to kill every single Jew. It's even in their charter. The IDF meanwhile does not want more Jews to die.
You are arguing with someone that believes in the 40 decapitated babies lie because the IDF said so. Just a heads-up that you are wasting your time like I did.
Okay, why would the IDF decapitate 40 babies? Id might believe it if it was some sort of accident, but the only group shown to deliberately kill children is Hamas.
Nobody decapitated 40 babies because that was the onboarding lie for the Western world told by the IDF.
No, the babies were decapitated. The question was whether or not they were dead beforehand.
And it wasn't "onboarding", lie or otherwise. October 7th was the onboarding, when Hamas broke a ceasefire and massacred over a thousand civilians.
Like it or not, you have to explain your heightened military expenses to your general public and the general public in Western countries do not give the littlest of shits about 1000 murdered civilians in some country they likely couldn't even point to on a map. 40 decapitated babies is bad and emotionally charged enough to dissuade them into hand-waving ammo and weapon shipments because now they are "making the world a better place". The definition of onboarding.
I won't reply to you any further than this. You may consider yourself the "winner" of this discussion, but it's too taxing for my mental health to continue.
There is one going on. It's not the IDF commiting it
Not only that, but they tried and try to kill all jews in Israel, and the wish of Iran, the known big daddy of all terrorists in middle east is to kill all jews in the world. Literally the spiritual successors of the Nazis