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This happened a while ago but the irony is just so palpable (lemm.ee)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/meanwhileongrad

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This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly

Edit: I'm convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It doesn’t.

Okay, so far you're in agreement, then, that contrary to your initial claim, ethnic cleansing is NOT an acceptable response, you just disagree as to whether ethnic cleansing is ongoing. Is that correct?

[–] goat 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think there are some good arguments about what counts as an ethnic cleansing when the population is entirely homogenous.

Is what Russia doing to the Ukraine an ethnic cleansing, considering their lack of diversity? What about the lack of diversity in Gaza? Turns into a semantic argument, really.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I understand. Wouldn't a clear ethnic majority in an area being removed to make way for a minority only make ethnic cleansing more apparent than the reverse?

Is what Russia doing to the Ukraine an ethnic cleansing, considering their lack of diversity?

Yes, absolutely.

[–] goat 2 points 2 months ago

What I'm saying is that the laws of what is considered genocide become blurry depending on how diverse that area is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hamas is the one ethnically cleansing. The IDF isn't. Remember, Hamas has been very explicit about wanting to kill every single Jew. It's even in their charter. The IDF meanwhile does not want more Jews to die.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Okay, so far you’re in agreement, then, that contrary to your initial claim, ethnic cleansing is NOT an acceptable response, you just disagree as to whether ethnic cleansing is ongoing. Is that correct?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You are arguing with someone that believes in the 40 decapitated babies lie because the IDF said so. Just a heads-up that you are wasting your time like I did.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Okay, why would the IDF decapitate 40 babies? Id might believe it if it was some sort of accident, but the only group shown to deliberately kill children is Hamas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nobody decapitated 40 babies because that was the onboarding lie for the Western world told by the IDF.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, the babies were decapitated. The question was whether or not they were dead beforehand.

And it wasn't "onboarding", lie or otherwise. October 7th was the onboarding, when Hamas broke a ceasefire and massacred over a thousand civilians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Like it or not, you have to explain your heightened military expenses to your general public and the general public in Western countries do not give the littlest of shits about 1000 murdered civilians in some country they likely couldn't even point to on a map. 40 decapitated babies is bad and emotionally charged enough to dissuade them into hand-waving ammo and weapon shipments because now they are "making the world a better place". The definition of onboarding.

I won't reply to you any further than this. You may consider yourself the "winner" of this discussion, but it's too taxing for my mental health to continue.