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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What do you mean by that? Where is the Overton Window sliding to the left?

[–] Ummdustry -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is misleading. Most people do not actually know what Socialism or Communism are in the US (including people on Lemmy.world and other more liberalized instances) that think they know. What we are seeing is increasing polarization, fascism and Socialism are rising as a response to decaying Imperialism in the American Empire, as a consequence of decaying Capitalism.

Party-wise, the Democrats are running on the GOP platform of 4 years ago, while the GOP is running on overt fascism. American politics is more right-wing than ever before.

[–] Ummdustry 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Under the asumption I am most people, can you give me the definition of socialism you prefer?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Socialism is, put at the most simple statement, Worker Ownership of the Means of Production. It is also, more abstractly put, the Dictatorship of the Proletariat in a transitional status towards Communism.

People often confuse Capitalist governments doing stuff for Socialism, and Socialist governments retaining Capitalist elements as the entire system being Capitalist. It requires class analysis of who is in power.

Do you have a different idea, or is this in line with what you currently understand?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It ends the same way. An authoritarian dictatorship of a small group that seizes total political power. It always ends this way, and no amount of people power will change that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Why? What are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Anywhere that companies will cater to the left, why would they throw away profit otherwise? You're the majority now and they'll market accordingly

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you think "left" means? Communists and Socialists are not the majority, nor are they being pandered to. Right-wingers like Liberals make up the majority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're kidding me, by your definition I'm center right

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you are, presuming you support Capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That is not leftism, that is socialism

Don't redefine what leftist is just because you don't consider culturally left to still be leftist

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Leftism starts at Socialism.