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[–] BodilessGaze 158 points 4 months ago (6 children)

In the US, some employers do pay out vacation, but many don't, because there's no law requiring them to do so. It's perfectly legal to offer literally zero vacation days.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 85 points 4 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

But we also accepts Likes and Subscribes.

Edit: Just don't ring the bell. We've already lost two of them...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

Well I mean it's not like the government is going to give us anything actually useful.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Americans do, too. Well, the smart ones feel sorry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Will you adopt me? I just need a small spot on the floor to sleep, I'm already house trained.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

California is actually one of the states that require pay out of unused PTO. I believe MA, CO, and LA do as well, Im not sure of all of them. More than half don't require it, in those states it's company dependant.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The really cool thing is that my nationally operating employer has offices in NY and CA, and my team has members in both NY and CA. And we in NY don't get paid out minimum unused vacation, while the people on my team in CA, who I work with every day, and who do the same job, in the same company, in the same country, do get paid out.

Our CEO (who recently was let go with a golden parachute and will never have to work again) was asked about this policy at an all-hands, and he replied, "We comply with local laws."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Since I live in Massachusetts, I was curious to learn more. According to this site, you are correct about my home state, and quite a few others as well!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aside from this, at least in my state, if you opt to cash out your vacation days without taking them, they get taxed at a higher rate. I used to tell my teams, "If you take your vacation days instead cashing them out, you get more money after taxes and you don't have to be here, so please just take your vacation time."

[–] conciselyverbose 3 points 4 months ago

I'm pretty sure they just get withheld at a higher rate.

It's the same amount of money, and the tax rate is calculated on total income (with a bunch of bullshit to make it more complicated for minimal reasons), but getting paid for unused vacation days means that you got a much higher total amount of cash that week, and so bonus checks have more money taken out for taxes because projecting that week's checks out to a year at $2000 instead of $1500 would put you in a different tax bracket.

But at the end of the year it's just your total income used to calculate the actual amount owed, so your number would be the same. (Ignoring that it's progressive and you earned 40 more hours worth of money). So most of the time that difference in withholding is basically just a bigger refund or less owed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Deoends on the state whether or not accrued vacation must be paid out or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

We in Europe measure who has bigger vacations, while Americans discuss wether they should have any. What a wild continent.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 1 points 4 months ago

Yup, I've never had an employer that pays out vacation. My dad did, and he also had a pension, so I know unicorns at least exist.

Mine just rolls over up to 5 days, and that's it. No payout or anything, though I think if you get laid off, it needs to be part of the severance package (but if you quit, you get nothing).