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Now, I don't like violence. But even I can see that there's a difference between violence waged for imperialism and violence waged against imperialism.
And you can see the difference too. That's why Obama and Biden always say that their wars are being waged "for freedom". That's why you accept the violence of historical revolutions like the American Revolution.
The problem is, Obama and Biden are lying when they say their wars are for freedom. Their wars are for profit and control.
And USSR, China etc were different?
Agreed
If you think violence is against isms, you don’t understand what violence is at all.
Was the French Revolution not violence against monarchism? The Haitain Revolution not against Slavery and Colonialism? The Russian Revolution not against Tsarism? The Cuban Revolution not against Fascism?
While people come up with post-hoc justifications for Wars all the time that relates to philosophical ideas, most of the time it is originally waged purly for economic reasons.
The French monarchy and the Russian Tsars were failing to feed their people so those people fought back. The philosophical ideas that the preceding leaders had about how to better distribute the food after the fact is another discussion, but make no mistake, the war was waged simply to get people fed by any means. There was by no means a uniformity of of thought among revolutionaries, but the victor writes history and creates a new myth to establish the following Society upon.
Something something material conditions.
100% correct, and I think I see the source of confusion. When people say they are fighting against Imperialism, they are referring to economic reasons, not philosophical ones. Society is driven by material conditions, not great people and ideas.