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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I may be a weirdo, but I was on the "I'd consider not voting for Biden." but I'm currently more interested in Harris. Nowhere near as bad of a track record as Biden had. From being racist, to supporting rapists getting into the Supreme Court, to backing massive removal of constitutional rights.

Harris' record isn't perfect, and while I'm in California, I don't recall any bills she pushed/voted for as Senator that was anything as bad as the USA PATRIOT Act. I don't like her record as our AG at all, but Senator is a different story.

If she picks a good VP pick, I'd be down. I'm wanting maybe Newsom, but that's just he biggest Democrat I know, as he's my Governor.

Edit: I don't know how to make it clear: I live in California. If I voted for a ham sandwich for oresident it would have the same impact as voting for Biden. My state's EC is clear and chosen, and popular vote doesn't decide the president otherwise we'd never have Trump. I was considering going Greens, but I'm looking forward to Harris. Get mad at undecideds in Swing States and Trump supporters, not a registered Democrat in California.

[–] [email protected] 105 points 5 months ago (5 children)

As a non American I just can't comprehend how any of you even have to think about this.

On one hand, an old man, who, despite his age and stumbling over his words, has ran the country relatively successfully for the last four years.

On the other hand, another old man that was a global embarrassment, cosied up to Putin and Kim, spent most of his time golfing and shitting his pants, stole classified documents and likely sold state secrets, he is a sexual abuser, an actual criminal, clearly has corrupt justices on his side with crazy plans, chummy with epstein and took multiple trips to pedo Island, promoted racism at every opportunity, many of the people connected to him for his first term were imprisoned, refused to accept your democratic process, contributed in instigating a fucking coup attempt, and that's likely not even the half of it...

Like, how the fuck can ANY of you look at that and say "Yeah but Biden stumbles over his words so I'll just throw my vote away/vote for trump..."

I feel like I'm going insane just watching this shit unfold. It is all so bizarre.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 months ago

As an American I'm newly flabbergasted by this every damn day

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago

Don't worry, those of us Americans who don't have their heads up their asses are just as baffled as you are and 3 times as embarrassed that Trump is even an option again.

I am in a fucking loop of laughter and tears because I don't even know what to do anymore.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It's insane. I will vote for whoever is most likely to beat Trump. It's embarrassing that he is RNC's pick for candidate. He demonstrated his inability to do the job and his fans still want him because he hurts the "right people". Horrifying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It's not even "he hurts the 'right people'" anymore, because Trump's policies hurt everyone. It's"he hurts the 'right people'" more than he hurts me. I will give myself a cold to give you a fever.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I just don't want an old rapist racist in charge of a country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

If pay money to hear the words "pedo Island" used against TFG in the debate.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (3 children)

you were considering not voting for Biden when Trump was the alternative?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A very common position among the lemmy crowd, unfortunately. I really don't expect much to change either, just swap Harris for Biden in the hit pieces.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I've disengaged from political news and discussion over the last few years for my mental health, and this confirms that was the right move. shit is driving me crazy.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know how to make it clear: I live in California. If I voted for a ham sandwich for president it would have the same impact as voting for Biden. My state's EC is clear and chosen, and popular vote doesn't decide the president otherwise we'd never have Trump. I was considering going Greens, but I'm looking forward to Harris. Get mad at undecideds in Swing States and Trump supporters, not a registered Democrat in California.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

CA still has republicans in congress so please still vote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm trying to. I live in the district Kevin McCarthy was in. His replacement isn't great. Our blanket primary was "Republican backed by Kevin and Trump" and "Republican backed by conservative think tanks and Trump staff".

I've considered running for office using a form of leftist talks masked like Republican talking points. But an openly queer leftist in Republican territory won't go well, unless I figure out what urn I want ahead of time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Even if we lose in 2024, we keep fighting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Naw I think this change wins it. But vote regardless 😜

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. But I'm in California. My vote for President doesn't matter. My local ballots do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

and what benefit do you think not voting for Biden would have gotten you?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not all of us live in swing states. It's weird that so many people act as if that's the case online.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't care where you live, vote.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I never said I wasn't going to vote.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

so you’re going to vote, but not for biden because of galaxy brained electoral college games. this isn’t time to fuck around with rhetorical voting no matter how safe you think your state is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Felt the same, both about her and Newsom.