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President Joe Biden could make a decision within days whether to remain a candidate for reelection, said Hawaii’s governor who participated in a recent meeting with Biden and other Democratic governors and whose family has known the president for years.

And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.

Green, who was a physician on Hawaii’s Big Island before he was elected governor, said everyone has parents or grandparents who have moments that aren’t that great or pauses in their ability to express themselves clearly. But, he added, they aren’t discarded because of their experience, wisdom and their role in the family.

Green was quick to point out that Trump is only three years younger than Biden and both will have bad days going forward. But he argued that temperament is more important than age.

“For God’s sake, these two guys have to hold the nuclear codes,” Green said. “I don’t want someone who tweets in the middle of the night and rages at other countries. That is not good. That’s not the problem we have with President Biden.”

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

And if Biden decides not to run, Hawaii Gov. Josh Green told The Associated Press on Saturday that he believes the president will designate Vice President Kamala Harris to replace him on the ticket.

If that happens, prepare to see the narrative of certain people switch from "no one should vote for Genocide Joe" to "no one should vote for pro-cop Harris." Anything but tell people to stop the dictator from gaining power.

Edit: Wow, that didn't take long.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This effectively changes nothing for me, I’m no fan of Harris or Biden, but they ain’t fascists

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Exactly, but that doesn't seem to be an argument they care about.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You are not the problem. Some people can't decide between Joe, and the party that wants to end democracy in this country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some people are upset that in the face of fascism, this is the best the American ‘left’ can do. They claim the entire country is on the line, but I haven’t seen them act like it. I’ve seen them say we need to vote for Biden, because abortion!! Roe V Wade was undone under his leadership and he has done nothing about it. He adopted extremist conservative border policy. The Supreme Court decision everybody is clamoring about happened while he was in the big chair. So why does he deserve my vote? Why would voting for him change anything when some of the most consequential and damaging legislation of the 2000s has happened under him?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Not just in this country.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

All I ask of people is vote for anything but trump. A sack of potato chips is better.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not good enough. You have to vote for the person most likely to beat him. It's a numbers game.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Wrong. A vote for Stein, or RFK, or West is still effectively a vote for Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (51 children)

We don't have to prepare for it, it's already happening, at least on Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup. Not only that, but the attacks from the GOP and media won't stop. They will simply change from "Biden is too old" to racist garbage like "Harris might be our first DEI president" (That's an actual headline from the NY Post, which I refuse to link to).

No matter what happens, Democrats will need thick skin.

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[–] Reverendender 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

She's also not a white male, so I fully expect them to go all out saying that execrable shit out loud.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I am not pro-Biden, but I'd vote for Harris. I think she's a stronger candidate.

[–] xmunk 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

She's a marginally better candidate if he endorses her enthusiastically. She's deeply flawed and unpopular but if Biden gives her credit for everything he accomplished she'd be trading "absolutely ancient" for "former uncharismatic prosecutor".

There are much better choices.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I agree that there are much better choices. Alas, Democrats are right of center and punch left.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

there are much better choices.

the problem is that none of them decided to primary the incumbent successful democratic party president.

so it's biden at the top of the ticket. if you didn't want biden to be the 2024 candidate, you should have worked harder to get another democrat nominated in 2020.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, and they've not won since Carter.

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