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  • Microsoft removes guide on converting Microsoft accounts to Local, pushing for Microsoft sign-ins.
  • Instructions once available, now missing - likely due to company's preference for Microsoft accounts.
  • People may resist switching to Microsoft accounts for privacy reasons, despite company's stance.
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[–] [email protected] 211 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Anyone who wants to switch to Linux we welcome you with open arms. Ask as many questions as you need. There are no stupid questions just bad answers. (You probably know the type)

If you can't switch, that's ok. Alot of us know what it's like, especially us gamers, Nvidia card owners, and recovering adobe-holics. Life is tougher but a whole lot more rewarding. I moved from windows/Macos and I wouldn't give it up for anything.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm actually gaming on nvidia! Didn't take any tinkering either. I got the Nvidia version of Nobara, which many steam games "just work" on.

That's not to say I didn't start tinkering anyway, but new games I install and just run work fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It's amazing how fast we got here though isn't it. There were a ton of talented people, most of them working without pay just to make it happen.

I love the sense of community from something like that even if all I could do is be a beta tester, request potential improvements, and donate to my favorite projects.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (6 children)

This is the nicest way someone's put it. I've tried to switch to Linux three or four times but until there is a distro that makes it plug and play like Windows or mac its going to be a tough sell. I consider myself tech savvy enough (I can google things, and for goodness sake at the bare minimum I can cut and paste into the terminal) but the barrier for getting Linux to work is too high right now for a very large part of the population.

I have W10 computer running the arrs and my plex server that I'm going to have to figure out as I can't get W11 on it.

I want to do it so bad!.... but I think I'll probably just end up getting a new, used computer that can run W11

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

the barrier for getting Linux to work is too high right now for a very large part of the population

My elderly (late 80s) parents have Windows on their laptops and it would be impossible for them to use it without my regular intervention. I might as well take the plunge and set them up with Linux.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

My mother asked me to switch her over and she loves it. I love it too because she isn't always asking me for help all the time. I was playing around with windows games on Linux and while I was testing her game because it was fast to download, she was impressed and she wanted to switch right there.

I don't remember when it started but every other update to windows home popped up an advertisement for the Microsoft account (she had a local account) and an advertisement for office 365. She would literally call me every time it popped up saying it looked important so she didn't touch it. Libre office is close enough to excel that all the time I spent teaching her Excel didn't go to waist and I could finally cancel my office 365 subscription.

I'm thinking of recommending it to my aunt because her PC is slow and won't be supported by windows 11. If she's interested I'll let her play with it on an old laptop for a while before verifying she wants to switch over. The same thing I did with my mother.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Even if something like proxmox or a Debian install with docker is more customizable. It's a steep learning curve.

But isn't something like truenas scale a option? I run Emby(as my media Server) and the arr's on it. All the apps are already in the "software store" including plex. And setup of the arr's is just the same as normal. All installs are basically automatic.

I easy passthrough my intel gpu in the config page on the webportaal, but don't how easy it is for Nvidia or amd. Especially with Nvidia due to drivers. But maybe someone here knows?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Definitely give Linux Mint a shot!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Also stuck on Windows but for specific software (Adobe & Revit). Zorin has looked like a promising distro for a little while now, at least coming from Windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Have you tried Linux Mint yet?

I recently installed it on a Dell laptop (work) to dual boot, and it seemed pretty much as simple as installing windows.

I’m a daily Linux user and had been using other distros in VMs, but I still wanted to try it.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

I need a PC that runs with no monitor and gets interfaced with through remote desktop only. I just installed Linux on that machine. It currently must have a keyboard and monitor because if it gets rebooted, it comes to the login screen. The login screen cannot be brought up via remote desktop (RDP through Remmina). I also have so far been unable to find a way to force it to automatically sign in "passwordless" like it used to do with Windows.

This box runs Plex as well as whatever game server I want to run for friends and I at the moment. (Currently Minecraft, which is having trouble since th switchover with server lag, but that is far less important than being able to reboot the screenless server box and have it work with no further input )

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Configuring automatic login shouldn't be difficult. Here are instructions on Ubuntu (should work on any GNOME system), and here's how to do it with pretty much any KDE system. This is a feature of desktop managers (like gdm or sddm), not desktop environments (like GNOME or KDE), so if neither works for you, you're probably using a different one. If that's the case, reply with your distro and as much info as you can provide.

That said, what exactly is the problem you're trying to solve? It's usually a lot easier to login remotely using SSH instead of remote desktop, and then use console commands to do whatever you need. To login with SSH:

ssh <user>@<IP address>

So if your username is tux and your IP is 1.2.3.4:

ssh [email protected]

And then if you want to reboot:

sudo reboot

And if you want to shutdown:

sudo shutdown -h now

I use an app on my phone to login, so I can get it done while sitting on the toilet in like 10s (I use it to unlock my computer so my kids can use it). If you're accessing from your computer and just need to run a single command, provide it after the command in quotes (note, sudo commands won't prompt for a password and will just fail).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Adding to this if you rub Plex from Docker, and you tell systemd to start docker on machine start you can also have the Plex container start automatically.

Then you dont even have to worry about logging in.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 5 months ago

Or if you don't use Docker, you can run it through systemd. That's what I do with minidlna to stream movies to my TV.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have three ideas: First, you could switch the desktop environment to one of the ones that has a GUI settings tool to set passwordless automatic sign in. I think Gnome 3 on Ubuntu, and Mate Desktop on Linux Mint have that feature. There are probably others.

Second, you could switch your display manager to "nodm". The display manager is the thing that runs the X server or Wayland, and it starts the greeter (the greeter is the program that shows the login screen). nodm is a special display manager that doesn't use a greeter or ask for a password. It immediately starts the session using the username and desktop environment specified in its configuration file.

I use nodm for my HTPC and it works very well. The only downside is that you have to edit its configuration file, /etc/default/nodm , using a text editor. I'm not aware of any GUI configuration tool for it. However, it's pretty easy to configure.

Third, you could abandon all display managers, and start the session manually, either from a shell script, or over SSH. This is a little more complex. You will probably want to get comfortable with SSH before trying this (SSH is the command-line analog of remote desktop).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Fantastic information. Thank you for all of it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I think the first thing is actually recommend is enabling a daemon that launches Plex at boot without login. sudo systemctl enable plexmediaserver For something like a Minecraft server I'd recommend reading up on the setup process. (It's a fair bit to summarize)

If the application doesn't come with a systemd service I'd recommend making a cron. They're scary looking but actually pretty easy to use, I use it for automating maintenance on my server.

It may feel counter intuitive but Linux servers don't really need a desktop to manage them so most the tools don't really come with graphical apps. If you want an interface to check on things I'd recommend installing and using cockpit web based graphical interface.

If you want to do it proper on a systemd system make a systemd.service it's not as easy to learn but you get extra tools to manage it.

I've heard there's a lot of work that has been done in kde and gnome to get rdp (remote desktop protocol) with remote login.

I hope this helps! If not, almost everything can be done through the terminal and ssh(secure shell) makes that process really easy. I installed and setup my Linux laptop and my server that way.

If you just want to transfer files there is sshfs(secure shell file system) and the ability to go to your file browser and type in an sftp(secure file transfer protocol) address. In kde dolphin for example you select network and type in the bar sftp://(IP address or hostname)@(user):(working directory). Make sure you have sshfs installed on both machines and sshd enabled on at least the system you want to access.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I'm just not sure how comfortable I am with no gui yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I have a pi5 at work (upgraded this year) that I use to administer my work network from home. I use ubutnu mate with xrdp for the desktop. Works great, even the sound works. No monitor and even if you hooked one up it would just show a login prompt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yeah I also haven't found a good alternative for a windows management host for RDP. I use my last remaining windows box as an "admin host" and the Linux alternative to this would be vnc or xrdp, both of which have their issues (no dynamic resize, clipboard issues, session restore issues)... I've also tried x2go recently which is closer but still not as slick/simple as a windows RDP session.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I literally just went through an entire mental exercise of what do I “need” to run, and got stuck hard with my audio interface and DAW software. Cubase (by Steinberg) and IK Multimedia just do not provide support at all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I use ardour as DAW, but only for recording on Linux. It's also available for macOS and windows. So you can check if it fits your work flow.

I mostly only use Linux, but sometimes you just need a program with out support. In my case it's sometimes qlab, Linux show player is great(and I have used it for many shows). But it's not feature compatibel with qlab

[–] Grilipper54 3 points 5 months ago

Reaper is Linux friendly and free for 60 days, I would give it a try. It's free after the 60 days but will prompt you to pay. The audio interface, I'm not to sure about, I personally do not run Linux.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People will switch once developers do. So far no luck on the music industry

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It sucks man, I feel you. There are a lot of free options out there you might want to check out!

I'm not experienced in this field but prosonus is working on a Linux version of their studio one app. I think they are trying to make VST extensions work at least on their software.

I'm probably not the best person to answer that question but maybe it helps. Most proprietary stuff is typically designed for Ubuntu or redhat so Ubuntu based or fedora is probably your best bet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the first comment about switching to Linux that makes me feel positively about the idea

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Hey, I've been a Linux gamer for many, many years, and before Steam Deck it was exclusively on nVidia hardware (mostly because I also wanted CUDA cores for Blender).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I’m a recovering Adobe-holic because their software is good at processing my drone photo DNG files

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I asked a legit Linux question in Rizon - Linux and got banned.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't know what rizon - Linux is is but I guess that's just the internet. I don't know what to say other than I hope you have better luck next time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

As opposed to gitter.im? I found the gitter communities to be very helpful.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a game.

edit: no, that's Ryzom.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It always amazes me to see an actively supported native Linux game. I've only tried native AAA games and the support for Linux is typically abysmal. I think hollow knight is the only one that worked flawlessly out of the box, I didn't even realize proton wasn't enabled.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

ArchWiki makes it so much easier these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It definitely helps you become a lot more independent as a Linux user. The tools you learn when you troubleshoot things are incredibly universal. Tools on Linux are intentionally designed to be intuitive and informative which is quite refreshing to obtuse tools like regedit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Both my PCs have nvidia cards, a 3080ti and a 970, and not run just fine with games and Linux. I dont quite understand the hate for nvidia cards. AMD cards must poop glitter or something too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

NVIDIA spent many many years doing a very very poor job of providing drivers for Linux.

Many people have not forgiven them for that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That's understandable but its still inaccurate to say that those with Nvidia cards will have trouble with Linux. I understand people have biases but that's not a helpful one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Maybe I wasn't clear, I'm an Nvidia user too. I got on at the ground floor of Nvidia just beginning to support Wayland and it was rough. To be honest my desktop would straight up refuse to boot most distro installers, hints why my first real experience with Linux was archlinux.

I understand X11 is perfectly usable but I just didn't want to use a system with constant screen tearing, I also just ran into weird issues with x11 when it came to running anything more than basic apps. It's always fun when your screen locks but can't capture inputs because you had a game running.

Probably the biggest reason I champion Wayland and I'm very excited for the upcoming explicit sync driver update. When wayland reaches maturity we'll have a smooth experience on par with windows or Macos and more secure/private than both.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

You will have terrible with nvidia, if you choose a the wrong distro and you are not knowing about vulcan and mesa drivers and that there are lib32 versions of those needed for steam if steam is not installed as flatpak (I not recommend that, because you have to give it access to mounted iso/disks and maybe other stuff using flatseal) , I guess.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It still happens more than it should. It took me 4 tries to get the nVidia driver to take on my "gaming" laptop with Fedora 40, (it wouldn't accept the public keys for some reason). And I had to wait for some updates that took 2 weeks to show up. But, the onboard Intel chipset ran Nouveau just fine with no waiting and tinkering. I think people are still having some issues with nVidea and Wayland yet. I know I still have some minor ghosting issues with a couple of AppImages I really need to use that would prefer straight X11 over X-Wayland.

Now that didn't bother me because I've been using various distros since buying my first boxed set CDs with RedHat 5 from Walmart of all places for $25US. (I still suffer from PTSD thanks to rpm hell). But I can see how a stumbling block like that can turn newcomers to Linux distros off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are no stupid questions just bad answers.

I prefer saying:
There's no stupid questions, just stupid answers once in awhile.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I do like that saying a little better. Most people are just trying to help and yeah, any amount of help is appreciated.

Some people could try a little harder to understand that we all started out knowing nothing and we all need a little help from time to time. It's awesome to see so many people trying to be understanding here though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The thing is, not all answers are satisfactory, or easy without further information. That said, learning is a journey, and if you don't get stupid answers once in awhile, you're not asking enough questions.