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apparently my city literally literally banned public rail funding, and people online love jerking off about how good biking is, so i figured might as well try. I have come up with:

pros:

  • good for mental health / exercise / endorphins
  • arguably quaint
  • feel like an old timey guy taking his wares to market
  • feel european
  • can annoy others
  • less of a police state around them vs cars
  • more flexible parking, routes
  • capacity to be peaceful
  • nice in summer

cons:

  • look like an annoying dork (esp w neon - which also hurts the quaint factor)
  • have to wear a helmet (^)
  • getting sweaty, potentially "unpresentable" for work
  • still have to find safe parking
  • still takes a while
  • have to find new routes to places
  • can't listen to music or might die
  • little meaningful protection against severe injury
  • can only carry so many groceries/etc
  • sucks in winter
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[–] HenriVolney 13 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Second this. The inconvenience of winter weather in particular. Dutch people are used to say that there is no bad weather to ride a bike, only inadequate gear.

[–] akwd169 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Try that in Canada though, it's not going to work out. 15cm of fresh snow with ice underneath and it's still coming down, while the sidewalks haven't been cleared yet? Good luck biking to work then...

You would have to use transit for about half the year here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

My city plows the bike paths at the same time it plows the emergency routes. We're in Wisconsin, but a startling number of people still commute by bike all year long.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

It's an issue of political will, because it's perfectly possible to keep cycling possible even in those conditions, but yea as long as that isn't there you can't always.

[–] HenriVolney 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] pumpkinseedoil 2 points 4 months ago

In Austria I've already seen people cross country skiing through the city in extreme conditions (but usually streets are cleared quickly so it isn't needed)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Can confirm. Especially wet snow/sleet can make bicycling completely impossible. A few centimeters is only a minor annoyance, but 10 cm is a serious problem. Fortunately, it doesn’t last long where I live, since the streets get cleared fairly quickly. During one of those mornings you better take a bus/train/subway instead. It also really depends on how well your town takes care of the streets and what public transport options are available.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Realistically it's only those 1-2 days after snowing when things are still being cleared that it's an issue. I bike commute 52 weeks a year in Minnesota and there were only 3 days this year I regretted biking. 2 snow days and one heavy cold rain. I can always supplement another option on those days.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s nice for the Dutch but I’m not riding a bike in 15+ cm of snow and ice while it’s -30c lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I do and it's honesty much better than those 33+ c days. When it's below freezing, I wear thermal high tops, snow pants, down jacket, face mask and ski goggles. Its perfectly comfortable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's true that it's possible to ride all year, even in places with harsh winters.

It's going to be decidedly less fun, though.

This was enough to tip the balance in favour of taking transit during the months of snow and slush here in Sweden, but I'm also spoiled for choice here. Now I've moved and have less of a ride to work, so I think I'm probably going to shoot for biking all year now.