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Look, I hate Trump.
But I do think he is a symptom of a larger problem. There's a bit portion of America -- Blue and Red -- that aren't being served well by American politics. We have a huge homeless problem, millions can't find good jobs, millions can't afford to rent -- let alone buy -- homes. Higher education costs are through the roof. Health care costs are through the roof. (I guess I should move away from using the expression "through the roof" when discussing how many people are homeless, but I digress.)
We've got big problems and it doesn't matter whether you're Blue or Red or who you blame -- those problems aren't being addressed in a meaningful way.
Trump could disappear tomorrow (Are you listening, God? It's America) and we're still going to have a big portion of our country out of work, out of home and out of health with a bleak future to look forward to.
Desperate people turn to extremism and religion. I'm not excusing that behavior, I'm just pointing out that it doesn't come from nowhere.
People that are happy, secure, treated justly/equally/fairly, have good incomes, can educate their kids, afford healthcare and can retire safely will not try to overthrow their government because there will be no one willing to listen to them.
Stop playing the 'both sides are the same song.'
The ACA was based on Mitt Romney's Massachusetts plan because Obama wanted to make it easy for the GOP to swallow it.
If the US is in trouble it's because one side has been trying desperately to screw the other and doesn't case if the public suffers too.
Seriously. I'm so tired of seeing this "I hate Trump, but..." bullshit. Because that's what it is -- bullshit. Yes, we have problems, MUCH OF WHICH IS CAUSED BY THESE MORON CONSERVATIVES AS WELL AS THEIR GODKING!
Remember, Trump would never have won if the GOP leadership had done their job back in 2016. They were happy to follow him and even now they bow to him. The analogy I've been using goes like this; Trump's the football coach who fed the team steroids and meth to win games, and the GOP leadership is the rest of the faculty trying to deal with the fact that the students are burning down the school.
The "both sides" argument is a cheap cop out to having a real talk.
Yes, the GOP is the primary obstruction, but the Democrats aren't helping much either.
I vote D all the way down to dogcatcher, but I certainly don't look to them to solve anything.
So, wouldn't it make much more sense to deal with the main problem first?
People literally died in Trump's coup attempt.
Deal with it how?
Literally my first comment.
You don't like Joe and the DNC? Wait until after the election to say anything negative.
Well in case you missed it, it has been almost 4 years since he was elected.
The kitchen is dirty, and it's on fire.
Yes, the kitchen being dirty is a problem. It probably even contributed to the fire, and makes putting out the fire even harder.
But you have to put out the fire before you can worry about anything else.
You're right. But that would mean politicians would have to stop kowtowing to business, start re-regulating Wall St, and begin to support social justice cause (tax rules, public housing, business regulation, etc). So unfortunately it's unlikely to happen because the whole gd world is so far down the rabbit hole we are blind to what could be.
There's one party who has a lot of people who want to address the problems you point out. There is another party that wants to remove all ability of the government to address any of those problems you mention because they think that will solve the problems.
The problem with the former party is that they can never get a large enough majority to do anything about it. The way our government is set up, you need more than slim majority in both houses to get anything meaningful done, unless you can get everyone of the people in the party to line up behind it, any you'll inevitably have hold outs.
Your post is just more of the "muh both sides!" nonsense. The problem isn't that neither party listens, it's that the one who wants to stop the government from being able to do anything about it keeps getting at least near 50% of the people to vote for them.
Well, you're right, but you're missing the fact that Republicans work hard to make and keep these conditions, because their base is made up of the most disaffected people. They block healthcare reform, they block student debt relief, they block first time home buyer assistance - they block all the social programs that would ease these problems. Then they try to dismantle the government entities that work to help these things; did you notice how many of Trump's appointees were vocally against the organizations he put them in charge of? Republicans want the government not to work so that they can say "See, it doesn't work, we need smaller government," and then they can get rid of the regulations and taxes that reduce the (already obscene) profits that corporations make.
So yes, you're right, but it's working as intended for the right.
I agree. I'm not missing the point that Republicans are the cause of this.
I'm (attempting) to point out that Trump is not the cause of our problems. He is the Republican party manifest and when he disappears, his creators will still be here... working on creating Trump II.
If he disapears tomorrow, maybe that'll knock some sense into the republican party and they'll get some actual politicians and work with the democrats instead of blindly voting no and anything they do, regardless of how good it is for people. These problems that you're concerned about wouldn't be problems if the right wasn't trying to make the left look bad. So take the both sides shit and shove it up all the way up your ass.
Well said, can't upvote this enough.