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Refugee board orders deportation for trucker in horrific Humboldt Broncos crash
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this post was submitted on 25 May 2024
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Ok, but what are we going to do about the lack of training in the trucking industry that led to this?
This wasn't caused by a lack of training, though.
He sped through an intersection with an oversized stop signs at it, which featuring a flashing light, without even trying to stop. (Source)
Ok, so when are we going to change trucking regulations to help out underpaid fatigued drivers?
I worked in the industry for ten years. A big reason I got out was being pushed by bosses to drive more and more for less and less money. This whole incident is a symptom of larger issues that I don’t think are being addressed.
I agree that the truck industry needs to change (I know a few career truck drivers who have shared their experiences), but this was not a case of improper training, or even fatigue.
There were so many warnings for the driver leading up to the intersection. He didn't even try to stop.
Only he knows what happened, but the court documents have listed perfect driving conditions, ample warnings, and squarely puts blame on the driver.
This was beyond tragic and completely avoidable.
At the end of the day it's not "the industry" driving trucks, is individual people.
But the industry is responsible for training these people, and they don’t provide enough.
And to add to that, it was my experience as a truck driver, that whenever something does go wrong, companies will do everything they can to place all blame on the driver.
Trucking should be unionized and made a red seal trade.
I doubt it. This is one chucklefuck not paying attention. He killed a bunch of people and should never see the light of day again.
It’s not like this was a tragic accident of sliding on ice, swerving to avoid a car, or any number of things. This human decided to barrel through a stop sign and murder children. Whatever he gets isn’t enough.
I do like the list of completely avoidable incidents that gets labelled as unavoidable here. Some y'all are telling on yourselves.
The guy didn't decide to "murder children". That's a gross bit of fairy tale weaving. Whatever the reason he didn't come to a stop at the stop sign - a thing many people do on the regular, and a thing that truckers in particular do all of the time, as they're often on a time crunch - or didn't notice the bus coming, none of them amount to murder.
Incompetence isn't intent, and the outcome doesn't define the crime.
It's telling that all of this anger and vitriol has lingered around the death of some hockey babie when the similarly tragic Bathurst Boys in Red collison resulted in no charges and relatively little public outcry. The lives of baskerball playing kids are worth a fraction of those of hockey playing ones in this country, it seems.
There's been plenty done since. Getting a CDL these days is ridiculously onerous and expensive.
I got mine in 2009. It was a 3 week course - 2 days in class, the rest driving for 2 hours each day - that cost $3000. Then they send you off on your own with a “good luck”
What’s changed since then?
It should be a trade with yearly training until you’re a journeyman.
Look up MELT. It's now over $20k and hundreds of hours of class and driving. It's crazy.
Hell, I challenged the test 30 years ago, it was basically hook up a trailer, drive around for an hour and do some backups, then show you can unhook a trailer. Never did a class, but I'm also a farmer so I've been driving trucks since I could reach the pedals.
It's truck driving, not rocket surgery. Stay awake and avoid killing busloads of kids. Millions of miles driven a day without incidents. As far as miles per accident, even old CDL drivers are orders of magnitude safer than the run of the mill driver with a 5000lb weapon in their hands, yet I don't see the authorities doing shit-all about the yahoos I see lobbing their vehicle blindly down the QE2