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I have friends who are Afghan who have had arranged marriages so this led me to be curious to ask, why does this practice still persist into the 21st century?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (5 children)

"it's tradition" isn't much of an explanation

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What they mean is that there is a deep rooted segregation of men and women. Especially in rural parts of India, where you can get to your mid-20s without interacting with a person from the opposite sex (not from your family i.e.). There are no social settings where you can "meet people" and hence for marriage, arranged is the only way.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

"it's tradition" isn't much of an explanation

It's not a moral answer, but it is an accurate answer.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Endogamy is one of the practices that took root in Indian society as a way to enforce the caste system. Some scholars even call it the rationale behind the caste system. It's got it's roots in Hindu scriptures (not hating on the religion, but it does need reformation IMO).

To read more about one of the foremost Indian/subaltern scholars on this explanation (endogamy) - https://baws.in/books/baws/EN/Volume_01/pdf/20

P.S I think proximity to India, trade with India could have lead to the practice being observed in Afghanistan, but it also seems like Islamic clergy (majority practice this in Afghanistan) does not have entirely progressive views on this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Some of this - and I speak exclusively from a layman standpoint of having worked extensively with quite a few Indian colleagues - has to do with whether an education system (or culture) prioritizes rote memorization vs critical thinking. India tends towards the former, the West mostly tends towards the latter.

Much simpler to persist the practice across many years when the majority of folks are explicitly taught to accept what they are told and not to actually consider it.

Context, I’m an American working for a large public company whose execs appear to have actually realized they got too aggressive with offshoring in recent years and are actually reversing the practice to a relatively sensible degree.

There is shareholder value in workers who come from e.g., a caste system, but there is also a significant risk to shareholder value when too many levels of decision-making are sent to places where that mindset is common.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

There is shareholder value in workers who come from e.g., a caste system, but there is also a significant risk to shareholder value when too many levels of decision-making are sent to places where that mindset is common.

Very interesting. Can you give examples of how this became an issue?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Congrats on being racist!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

This book review (never got around to reading the book itself) made me understand why people think "it's tradition" is a valid explanation at least sometimes. I disagree still but i couldn't find any counterarguments.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/06/04/book-review-the-secret-of-our-success/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Holy shit, just reading about surviving in the arctic made my head spin.

[–] Willy 1 points 6 months ago

that was an amazing read. thanks. I didn't expect to be up so late and totally captivated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Not if your culture doesn't value tradition. Yet there are cultures where tradition is ingrained in it's value systems.