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What values and goals does Biden share with Leftists, other than not being as far-right as the Republicans?
Who said anything about voting for Trump? I myself am voting Biden most likely because he isn't as bad as Trump, but I share practically nothing with his views.
What person is criticizing Biden from the left but actually voting for Trump, other than the strawman you created?
Supporting of unions is a pretty big thing biden supports that leftists also support, nevermind his views and actions on climate change and bodily autonomy.
Your comment is wildly reductionist and supremely ignorant.
Biden has given concessions to Unions, that does not make him pro-Union. He has fallen excessively short on Climate goals and has done little to expand abortion protections.
Being less right wing for a liberal does not make Biden a Leftist, it just makes him less of a bad thing.
Your comment is wildly reductionist and supremely ignorant.
"Biden helped unions get what they want, that doesnt mean he helps unions."
Do you even read what you're typing?
On the subject of abortions, what do you think he can do short of publicly speaking about his support for bodily autonomy? A president isn't a king.
Why are so many progressives so uneducated on how our government works?
Biden tossed scraps, yes. He has not proposed radical changes to the anti-union policies that exist everywhere, he has not supported strikes, and he has not expanded protections to Unions. Believe it or not, a Pro-Union candidate can do these things! Biden isn't actually pro-union, he just tosses scraps when strikes happen.
Yes, I do read what I am typing. I want a Pro-Union candidate, not a neutral one, so I will criticize Biden.
I believe Biden can quit playing softball with regards to abortion. Biden is the king of virtue signaling, he isn't a king but he does have power.
Moreover, Biden is a Capitalist going far out of his way to support ongoing genocide. I am not going to be happy with his Capitalism, and I certainly won't be happy with his genocide.
Im not sure it's possible to be more pro-union than being literally the only president in united states history to ever step foot onto a picket line and protest.
He is doing what he is legally able to do for abortions and unions. The president is not a lawmaker, nor a king like you would seem to have him be.
Again, its not his fault you seem to be ignorant of the structure of the US government.
I literally gave you examples of how a President could be more Pro-Union: by presenting and helping pass actual Pro-Union legislation that protects worker's rights to strike and form unions. Another good one would be mandating that all companies be unionized, or companies of a certain size must have union representatives participate in Board meetings.
Virtue signaling does nothing materially, it's an optics thing.
He isn't doing what he can do, lmao.
I am not ignorant of the structure of the US government just because you believe the job of the US president is to shout slogans and steer the country off vibes, lmao
Which legislation that republicans have allowed to hit floor should biden support?
Its also certifiably nuts you think a president should unilaterally demand all companies be unionized - like the king you would have him be. The destruction that would be wrought is unimaginable.
You just dont understand how us politics work.
Biden can do more than sit and wait until legislature passes up to him.
Secondly, it is absolutely not "certifiably nuts" to suggest that all companies be unionized - rather, it's an extremely sensible thing to do for worker protections.
You just don't understand how any politics work.
Lol, you just want a king.
A king to tell you what to do and when to do it.
Nah, it's a lemmy.ml account. They already have a "king", Putin.
No, I want the will of the people to be represented, not the will of the ultra-wealthy that both major parties ultimately cater to over the people.
Thats an extremely reasonable stance.
So who are you voting for?
Probably Biden, I have said that numerous times. This isn't a gotcha! moment, my point is that voting will not move America leftward unless the parties are under serious strain and stand to fall out of power entirely.
Yeah, "probably."
You think you're being clever, which is very sad to watch.
If he dies, I can't vote for him, lol
So supportive of unions, thats why he adopted Ronald Reagans policy of making it illegal to strike . All hail the Union loving strike breaker. Couldnt even get em sick days give me a break.
Edit: yes they eventually got sick days, only one of these things was passed via law/ executive order, guess which one? The intervention was a huge step backwards for labor rights
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid catch up, buddy
This is blatantly false.
Biden did get the rail workers union sick days. Its not his fault you cant read.
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
He made sure to remove agency from the workers in the process
The end result may have been favorable, but it seems wack to use this an example of Biden supporting unions. Seems more like he disenfranchised them instead
The union strikes and saber rattling achieved their own results. The workers had the power since they scared the establishment to give them what they wanted. However Biden took all the credit for it even though he crushed their union rights which just goes to show how irrevocably damaged the liberal brain is
Either way, it's an example of Biden placing himself above workers. I was misled by all the liberals posting about how great Biden was for giving the workers what they want.
I am not immune to propaganda.