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Where do you think Democrat Rep. Jamaal Bowman pulled the fire alarm, or that the Ocasio-Cortez protesters that stormed Pelosi's office?
I think that Bowman was in the building legally and I don't know anything about the other event, so I can't comment.
Was it legal for Bowman to be there though if he had the intention of committing a crime? Do people with access to their workplace, have the right to go there with the intention of committing a crime?
Yes, just like it's legal for you to be in a bank if you have the intention of robbing it because it isn't a crime until you actually do it. Breaking into and occupying the Capitol is in itself a crime.
So what about unlawful purpose and abuse of right doctrines?
If I'm supposed to know what those are, I don't, but do they make occupying the capitol not a crime? Do they make intending to pull a fire alarm a crime before you pull it? Because otherwise, I don't know how they would be relevant to either scenario.
So you admit to not knowing law but then make some statement saying that going to a bank with the intention of robbing it is fine until you actually rob it?
Yes they can mean that you don't have a legal right to be somewhere if you went there with the intention of committing a crime.
I know enough about the law to know that no one has ever been arrested for intending to pull a fire alarm, but many people have been arrested for actually breaking and entering.
Just scoffing about my not knowing what you're talking about doesn't explain how they are relevant to these two examples.
People get arrested all the time for planning to commit crimes, even before they actually carry them out. I'm not sure why the fire alarm part is suddenly relevant here. Someone argued that because he had a legal right or what they though to be a legal right to be in a building meant that he can't be charged with disrupting proceedings because he didn't enter the building illegally. I was saying, no that isn't correct... that if he went there with a specific intent it is likely he didn't have a legal right to be there.
You brought it up!
Yeah, cause it is literally what the article is about. Did you read it or you just here to talk about the weather?
You one post ago:
You now:
Make up your mind.
Uh, yeah I was talking about "People get arrested all the time for planning to commit crimes, even before they actually carry them out" which I say right before that... the fire alarm part is not relevant to what crime they were planning on committing. Are you even going to discuss in good faith or just try to paint the picture you already have made up in your head?
Ah, I see, you were moving the goalposts. Gotcha.
Okay QAnon. Bye bye. Don't talk to me anymore since you can't be honest with yourself or anyone else.
If you're talking about honesty, you're calling someone who is saying that invading the capitol on January 6th is a crime a QAnon conspiracy theorist, which is a bizarrely dishonest accusation.
Damn I wish I was as level headed as you are.
How's your newish Thinkpad treating you btw? Got everything set up the way you like? Is the processor fast enough for everything you need?
Yeah, thanks. It's working really well. I couldn't be happier with it now that it's all set up. Installing Mint was a major pain, but once I got over that part, it was great.
And I try to be level-headed as much as I can. Doesn't always work, but I try. :)
Woof, what a frustrating chain of comments that was to read. Nicely done for staying even keeled the whole time.
Thank you.