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[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (3 children)

On behalf of the dozens of us here…. Welcome Joe!

[–] [email protected] 66 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Ah it's Threads...

Good that it's fedi, bad that it's threads. They definitely have the resources to run a government Mastodon instance, but no let's stay beholden to the tech companies 😑

And none of them appear to have joined Bluesky yet, a competing decentralized social network running on its own AT protocol that recently opened general signups.

good.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I’d rather have them on Bluesky/AT than Threads, to be perfectly honest…

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Eh, from what I could gather from both specs ATProto does address some shortcomings of ActivityPub, so the idea has some technical merit. While a lot of the current Fediverse seems to have settled on AP, it’s not like it’s the be-all and end-all of federated protocols either.

Maybe you’re just talking about the company behind it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

AT does have some advantages, but I strongly prefer the whole philosophy behind AP.

And yes, bsky doesn't really inspire me with confidence.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 1 points 8 months ago

Agreed. Of all the mainstream Twitter successors, I definitely think Bluesky is the least bad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Whats wrong with bluesky? I hear this general sentiment about it but have never even looked at it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I believe, people are mostly annoyed that Bluesky started yet another (half-baked) standard, rather than throwing their weight behind ActivityPub.

This would be fine, if they were decidedly a for-profit company, but their whole branding is that they want to benefit humanity.

It's also weird that the former CEO of Twitter is involved.
The guy could have pushed Twitter into that direction, but apparently, he needed a separate project to have this change of heart.

Like, I don't know, they've got some things that look alright:

  • They've open-sourced some things.
  • It's legally a Public Benefit Company.
  • They've got the creator of XMPP on board, so that at least makes it credible that they genuinely want to come up with a better protocol.
  • Their CEO is a techie.

But yeah, I'm still worried, it ends up being a bait-and-switch. Make it all look good for now and once enough users have signed up, slowly transition to just becoming yet another Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

aaah ok yeah that makes sense.

Also, I love that I was downvoted for even asking why I should hate another website instead of blindly hating it. Never change reddit 1.3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Smaller, less content but all the toxicity you have come to know and love!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] planish 7 points 8 months ago

They also have Paul Frazee, who is the Beaker Browser dude and one of the Secure Scuttlebutt dudes. And also whyrusleeping, one of the IPFS dudes. So if they manage to enshittify it won't be because they forgot to hire enough "Wizard Utopians" with decentralization experience.

[–] sorghum 2 points 8 months ago

It's run by Jack. The same Jack, founder of Twitter that was at the helm while Twitter went to shit before Musk got it. I know Musk era has been really bad, but it was getting really bad under Jack. I wouldn't trust a social network run by him or Musk or Zuck.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Joe can’t see your welcome message. Threads can’t see content posted outside of Threads. It can only spam masto Instances, and if you want to comment, you need to download Threads.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

For an account like this, who cares? It’s a one way flow of PSA type announcements anyway, not like Biden or his team would engage.

If I want to start a discussion about one of those posts, I’d do it on lemmy somewhere I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

sigh So Threads can throw their posts out into the fediverse, but no one from fediverse is allowed to post comments back? Why am I not surprised? 🙄

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I hope you're right!

[–] planish 1 points 8 months ago

Two-way federation is like MVP table stakes and the folks at Facebook could throw it together in a weekend hackathon if they felt like it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

its still in beta

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can comment just fine. Threads users just can't see it yet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Exactly, and that’s most of the users.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

If you think that he personally goes anywhere near this I got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya...

All of his social media accounts are handled by his PR team. He probably doesn't even know what's on them.