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For a Universal Declaration on Fediverse Rights, or: At the Core of the Threads-Debate lies a deeper problem: how can the Fediverse grow without losing its soul in the process? (fungiverse.wordpress.com)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We need some basic rules,

No single direction federation
Users own their content and can licence it as they feel fit

With these 2 it would be hard to fuck up

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Users "owning" their content in that way would be the instant death of the Fediverse. If anyone can put whatever nonsense license terms they want on each individual comment or post, how could that chaos possibly be federated?

A better approach would be to recognize that if you're posting your words up on a giant billboard you're not going to be able to control who sees them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Users "owning" their content in that way would be the instant death of the Fediverse. If anyone can put whatever nonsense license terms they want on each individual comment or post, how could that chaos possibly be federated?

A better approach would be to recognize that if you're posting your words up on a giant billboard you're not going to be able to control who sees them.

Would quotes fall under fair use or copyright infringement?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I imagine legal questions would be answered similarly as with email. If I send an email from my abc.com email address to your xyz.com email address, who owns the email? Who has copyright over it? I think the answer should be the same for Fediverse content.

[–] Barbarian 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

According to a quick Google search (I'm no expert on copyright law), a sufficiently original email is automatically copyrighted. What constitutes "sufficiently original" seems to be pretty arbitrary.

So I guess if you post a short story, that's automatically copyrighted. Commenting "this" is not. And then there's a huge grey zone in the middle.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I think the same basically applies to... Anything. I mean a sufficiently original book is copyrighted but a sufficiently unoriginal book is not. Substitute book with any kind of media you want.

Makes you realize how finicky copyright is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Is there single direction federation right now? I don't think there is?

Also it would probably be more realistic for instances to put a default license on content. Users don't want to bother choosing a license and most users wouldn't even know what that means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

100% have instance user defaults etc those who want to custpmise further can do so its already part of peertube and pixelfed.