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Of course it is challenging to conduct polls during wartime. Countries tend toward authoritarianism when they are at war. But unlike the invaders, Zelensky’s government was elected in free and fair elections in 2019. This election, as well as the Maidan protests in 2013, make it pretty obvious to me that Ukrainians support their independence from Russia.

The sources are Gallup and KIIS.

Let me know when you can find a source that shows the majority of Ukrainians do not support the war against Russian invasion. I’ll wait.

The source is unbiased and objective in terms of demonstrating that the majority of Ukrainians support the fight against the Russian invasion.

I don’t expect moral perfection from a country that is fighting for its survival against a more powerful aggressor. Yes, conscription is awful. Ukraine has allowed many exceptions but the alternative is to surrender their country to the real ghouls here, which is the Moscow regime that has raped and murdered innocent civilians from Bucha to Mariupol.

There would be no need for conscription if Russia had not invaded Ukraine, and conscription would end tomorrow if Russia would turn around and go home.

From here: https://theconversation.com/what-latest-polling-says-about-the-mood-in-ukraine-and-the-desire-to-remain-optimistic-amid-the-suffering-221559

And here: https://news.gallup.com/poll/512258/ukrainians-stand-behind-war-effort-despite-fatigue.aspx

And here: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/beyond-the-counteroffensive-84-of-ukrainians-are-ready-for-a-long-war/

As a matter of fact, your article shows the conscription is unpopular, particularly among people being conscripted. It does not show that the majority of people in Ukraine do not support the fight against the Russian invasion. It was disingenuous of you to provide that article to infer otherwise.

It seems to me that the Ukrainians themselves want to fight this invasion as well.

The one thing I kinda thought the boomers who predominantly run shit would be good at was to remember what level of economic commitment is required to win a real, serious military conflict (and Afghanistan and Iraq don’t count - they were fully asymmetric conflicts). But it seems they can’t even do that.

Well Afghanistan and Iraq are really the only two wars which the boomers can be said to have “fought” in the sense of being the largest voting bloc, well represented in the administration - basically running things.

They were post-WW2 children so they weren’t really running things during Korea and Vietnam, or the Cold War generally. The two conflicts you mentioned are just about the two best examples of “Boomers’ Wars” you can find, so to say “they don’t count” is funny because it should at least illustrate why the current situation is not so surprising. They don’t know how to fight a war - they were born when their parents just won a fucking big one.

it might be Ukraine or their associates

Gotta stop you right there. Ukraine orchestrating this attack is not in the realm of possibility.

I agree with your other points, but given Putin's track record with things like this I think it's absolutely relevant to mention the very real likelihood that this was orchestrated by Russia and will be used to escalate. Of course you are right that time will tell. But I for one appreciate the reminder of Putin's history in this regard and to be on guard for how this awful event and the tragic lost lives of innocent victims will be used by the Putin regime for his own nefarious purposes.

Exactly. Does anyone remember how our healthcare system was falling apart during and after COVID? One would think that it would be an election priority, and yet during the 2022 campaign it was all about language issues.

The sad thing is that it was extremely effective, and people like the poster I replied to are exactly the reason. Distract people with inflammatory divisive politics, and let the real problems fester and rot.

I do not care a bit if my doctor or my kids doctor speaks French. I just want to see a doctor.

Don't other jurisdictions like EU and USA already have passenger rights rules? Are the ones being pushed for in Canada any more stringent than theirs?

I doubt it. I think the passenger rights rules we are asking for in Canada are more or less in line with other parts of the world. So it begs the question - how are those pilots able to ensure safety without this supposed financial pressure?

Lol thanks, you got it. I'll wear the downvotes as a badge of shame, and a reminder to take the time to think before I shoot off a stupid comment.

Bah, who am I kidding. It's not the first time this happened and it won't be the last. I once got downvotes in a newiran subreddit because the OP compared the Iran govt to neanderthals - I felt that homo sapiens neanderthalensis is a bit misunderstood and didn't deserve to be insulted by the comparison.

Hey is this the part where we ask for proof?

Cuz all I've been hearing is that Canada's allegations are totally baseless until we provide proof. Isn't that how it works? Or is proof only required when India is being accused?