Amputret

Poofy Roadman

How the fuck is any of this supposed to help me?

I appreciate you.

There’s a joke?!

And yet y’all will happily dismiss anybody who is to the right of you (or a different flavour of left from you) as a ‘lib’. 🤔

My favourite quote: ‘Rees-Mogg congratulated the Labour leader, Sir Keir Starmer, on “what seems to be a historic victory”, adding, as his final thought, “from the ashes of disaster grow the roses of success. So thank you very much everybody, and good night.”’

I can only read this as him admitting publicly that he and the Tories are a complete disaster.

You can burn things in acid or other caustic substances.

That’s two words.

Of course I have, I have been using it the whole time, non-vegan, it is perfectly descriptive and already used.

I heavily curtailed my meat consumption to the point of eating it a few times a year or so, sure not a gold star vegan, but I and no doubt, others are turned off from being lumped into the same group as steak-every-day ‘red blooded’ self-described ‘carnivores’.

Thanks for sharing how you were persuaded to become vegan, I stopped eating meat following learning of the sheer inefficiency and waste of the meat rearing process, but if you’re saying you respond to ridicule, then more power to you. You should know though, that most people don’t find those methods persuasive.

Personally, I take a bit of offense to you drawing equivalence between the distinction of vegans and non-vegans and autistic and allistic people, asexuals vs allosexual people, or trans and cis people. The latter three here being immutable facts of somebody’s being and lived experience, whereas veganism is merely an ideology- no matter how laudable that ideology is, the fact is that it is a freely chosen aspect of their personality or beliefs.

For that reason, southsamurai’s point still has merit that you haven’t addressed, that “carnist” is an attempt to form division and delineation needlessly. Those other examples you gave of descriptors ‘normal’ people take offence to (shame on them) are scientific terms. Carnist is a pure ideological term, and it gives serious hexbear “fucking libs” energy.

If you claim your goal is to get more people into veganism, I would agree it is counterproductive - because non-vegans can become vegans, there’s no need for that othering language. Other descriptors for ‘normal’ people you list are purely descriptors and have utility for that reason, a cis person cannot be made into a trans person, a heterosexual cannot be made into a homosexual person.

Also Three Arrows.

I want my money back, then. 😢