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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

IIRC, this was posted earlier today on the lemmy.ml instance, and very, very quickly deleted by a mod.

...Which undermines the central claim.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

They didn't want anyone getting any funny ideas about tankies. Like that they weren't braindead, authoritarian boot lickers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I dunno. Have you noticed that the guy is portrayed as a soyjak?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

What I mean is that lemmy.ml is an explicitly communist-apologist instance*, and that anything that is supportive of Biden, even when it's solely about minimizing other harms to marginalized people, is quickly deleted. Comrade Dale is depicted as being a tankie that the soyjack says can't support Biden.

...But it was deleted by tankie mods, because they can't support Biden even if the only realistic alternative is many magnitudes worse.

*To be clear, I have no issues with libertarian communism; I think it's great, and I'm mostly anarchistic myself, even if I recognize that pure anarchism doesn't scale well to countries. I have a problem with authoritarian communism, and I have a problem with people that would hand-wave all the massive amounts of murder committed by Lenin, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, and many other communist dictators.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago (19 children)

Well, the one to the right (probably) isn't a tankie though, but I approve their actions

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 month ago

Hey, if tankies were gonna vote for Biden to thwart trump, we wouldn’t have a problem. It’s that most that I’ve seen explicitly say they won’t. And they advocate that people shouldn’t. So - i don’t get it.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Lol the post you made this as a response to literally has tankies calling themselves tankies and stating that they will not vote for Biden.

Seethe harder.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Gotta say, I'm confused as to why Dale Earnhardt is in this meme...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Raise hell praise Dale

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He was very left leaning. He would vote for Biden to defeat Trump

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (35 children)

As a South American who had to choose between right and extreme right, being a leftist, I completely understand the frustration about voting Biden. And what's more, agree completely he does not deserve to be voted. But, in order to defeat fascism and with all other cards now played, Biden is the lesser of two evils and taking the moral high ground could result on fascism taking over the USA. I suggest voting for Biden. My two cents...

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

I actually love this model:

Biden supporters: "Unite around candidate Biden or prepare to watch Democracy die!"

Biden detractors: "You guys are nuts! That old bastard can barely put 3 sentences together. I will argue we should have a younger more vibrant candidate like Big Gretch who would wipe the floor with Trump all the way until I vote for Biden's senile ass on November 5th!"

Biden supporter: "You dumb fucks, Whitmer herself says she isn't interested and is all-in for Biden! But she'd be a great candidate and I would fully support her if Biden steps down and she was the nominee. But he won't, so pull your heads out of your asses and support him!"

Like, if we gotta argue, let's have fun with it and just vote 100% for dems top to bottom on November 5th.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

When there are people that are still voting, even if it’s not for Biden, I disagree with it, but only politely. It’s still your right as American.

But that isn’t the message going out in so many of these memes. Barely any content encourages any specific candidate, and evokes ridiculous concepts like “A vote for Biden is a vote for genocide” - without putting forward an alt candidate that has a genuine plan to prevent genocide (obviously, Trump is not one).

The reason I’m fine with generally just ensuring people vote, whoever it’s for, is because statistically Democrats win elections that more people vote for. I have faith that genuine, fair popularity contests will go my way.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While true, I can still be pissed off that Dems force me to vote for someone I don’t want instead of offering someone about whom I can be enthused.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

For Trump supporters it's more like "Organize, Vote, Racist".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I don't know much about US presidential candidates, but maybe all of you can vote for this Brandon person if the other side doesn't like Biden?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Biden isn't a "neo-liberal shill" he's a boring, middle of the road corporatist.

Republicans and Democrats have been moving steadily to the right for the last 40 years. So now, the Democrats are where the Republicans used to be in the 1980s: friends of banks, insurance and pharmaceutical companies. And the Republicans have moved all the way into an insane asylum.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Biden isn't a "neo-liberal shill" he's a {exact definition of neo-liberal shill}

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

No, Ronald Reagan closed the asylums so they had to stay in office

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