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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by csm10495 to c/[email protected]
 

An electrician 'fixed' an issue by making this hole in a basement cinder block wall.

.. how do I put that box back in or fix the wall or something?

Inside the box are two capped (hot) wires.

The pipe seems to be copper. Doesn't bend or anything. It can't (at least easily) be pushed back in.

I had wanted to use cement paste.. but like what do I do about the box? I guess I could paste everything except the metal pipe but geez: then i still have this sketchy box hanging out.

Images: https://imgur.io/a/yBh2QBD (posted from mobile and don't think the images went through)

Any ideas?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tell him to come back and finish the job, because that is shit, and you're paying him to do the whole job, not half-ass it.

[–] csm10495 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Funny enough he claimed this was the job and the only way to fully fix it would be to replace the whole wire pipe and break a line up the wall and fix it.. and charge at least a thousand bucks more for the pleasure.

Ridiculous.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Nope. He could have just properly installed the box flush in that wall using plaster of paris or something. He was just to lazy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe a short talk with a lawyer is not a bad idea if you can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You probably want to slip some conduit around the wire to protect it from the mortar, patch the hole, then use a surface mount box screwed to the wall with the wire fed in the back.

[–] csm10495 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The wire is inside a copper pipe. The line going to the box is a copper pipe with 2 wires in it. (I think its already protected.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If that's the case, I'd probaby try to cut the copper pipe back, install a 90 degree fitting and do the rest of what I suggested.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Electrically speaking it is in the proper housing, but the box is not secured, so I would ding it for that at the very least. I agree about cutting the conduit back and putting in a proper secure box and then cementing around the box. You could also use a surface mount box. In that case you would cut the existing conduit back, put a 90 degree elbow with a enough conduit to extend past the wall edge. Patch the wall and then install a surface mount box where the wires are connected in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any chance of disconnecting the wire and pulling it out of the conduit? Then you could cut the conduit off inside the wall with a reciprocating saw or better, an oscillating tool, abandoning it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They make circular conduit cutters not much bigger than the conduit itself. They go for around $25. One of those would easily fit in the opening you have. Be sure to turn the power off to the circuit first though.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/General-Pipe-Cleaners-GPC-1-2-in-Auto-Cut-Copper/1002782800

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] csm10495 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The wire to the box is inside a copper pipe. Its wall -> copper pipe -> electrical box.

The wires are in the copper pipe.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right then that's a conduit and you can probably bend it back.

[–] csm10495 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It didn't want to bend. I wound up hitting it many times with a hammer to bend it inward.. not fun but hey it may work out.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then I'm confused about how this looked before, was the conduit always sticking out?

[–] csm10495 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. There was an access box flush in the wall. He broke the wall, pulled it out and here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wow, what did he "fix" then? He did a terrible job. I understand an electrician not fixing the cement block, but they should have properly installed and secured the box flush with the concrete.