If only quotes, evidence, and objective reporting had any hope of getting through to his supporters...
this post was submitted on 14 Nov 2023
210 points (90.4% liked)
politics
18645 readers
3587 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
It's almost impossible to reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
They would never have become his supporters in the first place if that were the case.
A very good point
There's a big intersection between conservatives and people who find it very important to support the military. You don't necessarily have to get them to engage with an argument so much as associate him with something they don't like.
MAGoos. "I love Trump because he's not a politician; he says exactly what he means."
Also MAGoos "...this is what Trump MEANT to say..."
Why slam/ eviscerate/ blast when you can torch
B I D E N
B L A S T
It's super effective!
Don't forget "rip".
Torched me
Absolutely slammed
And yet people will still vote for him to "oWn ThE LiBs" Republicans propaganda is really good at getting people to vote against their own self interests
Thank their decades long war on education for that.
Judging by what I hear from the Republican-voting folks around me, unless this airs on Newsmax or OAN (etc) the people who need to see it, won't.
It's not like this would change their position anyways. The man has admitted, on record, to raping women, barging into children's changing rooms, and wanting to fuck his daughter.
Anyone who still supports him is just flat out a bad person.
I agree mostly. Part of what I meant was that those networks will never sit such material, so it won't get to the viewers, but if they did for some reason, some viewers may believe it because it came from a trusted source. But it will likely never sit on those networks, those viewers will never see it, and as you say, they will continue to behave poorly.
True, my in-laws even stopped watching Fox News because I guess they weren’t lying enough or something.
He didn't mean it, multiple times.
Over the course of months, generally, and personally.
*years, publicly
Anyone over 60 should be barred from office. Both 45 and biden are too old for this shit
I'd be fine with 65, but I otherwise agree.
#StopTheGerontocracy
Univision, which recently gave Trump airtime, has turned down Biden ads (and of course turned down equal airtime for Biden). Wanna bet this ad won't appear on Fox, OANN, Newsmax, or RSBN? I saw one interview with a MAGAt recently in which she said she gets all her news from Telegram.