this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2023
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Paragons of Virtue Arrested

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It's time to name and shame the self-proclaimed paragons of virtue. Keep it civil, though.

Stories are about those who have been placed in positions of trust, and then abused that trust.

Feel free to add stories of the self-righteous from other walks of life.

New rule: With regard to stories of particularly, but not only, female teachers sexually assaulting students. Any comments similar to "where were they when I was in school" will earn you the right to find another forum.

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A FEMALE teacher repeatedly had sex with a "vulnerable" 14-year-old pupil in her car while in an "unhealthy" relationship with her, a court heard.

Ellie Pattison, 29, allegedly became friends with the schoolgirl while teaching in a secondary school.

The teacher made her believe she had fallen "in love", it was said.

Hove Crown Court heard Pattison twice had sex with the pupil in her car and in two of her friend's homes.

She also allegedly repeatedly touched the teen and kissed her after they began meeting outside her school.

Sarah Lindop, prosecuting, said: "She abused her position of trust but also made the complainant, who was a vulnerable child, believe it was a real relationship and that she loved her.”

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[–] [email protected] 120 points 11 months ago (2 children)

RAPED, not "have sex with". A 29yo does not "have sex with" a 14yo. They RAPE or MOLEST them.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Or *groomed and abused

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is the second story in the last week I've seen that a female school staff member "had a sexual relationship with" a student.

Curious choice of words, to say the least

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the issue is that legally in most countries rape is defined as penetration with a penis.

So as abhorrent as this behaviour is, it's abuse and certainly not a sexual relationship.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

rape is defined as penetration with a penis

And legal and moral definitions aside, that's what pops into most people's minds when "rape" is talked about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would actually be rape then, in the UK.

By law a female cannot commit rape under UK law. It’s defined by penetration with a penis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Wow. That's crazy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

A man penetrating with his own penis. If not, it isn't rape.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Try to find another source of news other than the Sun. It truly is tabloid garbage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Yep don't give these racist, xenophobic, rage-bait cocksuckers the clicks. It's probably made up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

No, the Metro is the daily mail in a clown mask.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Whats interesting is both articles make you believe the teacher was 29 and the student was 14 at the time of the event, but as soon as you dive into the article they reveal this happened when the teacher was actually 23. The intentional mis-leading from Metro makes it equally questionable to the Sun.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

made the complainant believe it was a real relationship and that she loved her

They reiterate this point so many times that it makes me think the victim still believes, even now, that she's in love with the teacher...

Is what I would've said, but then I went and read the article, and turns out I'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Branding Pattison a "dh", she accused the teacher of making her thinking something "that wasn't even real".

Anyone help me out with this one? Dickhate?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Domestic hoe.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"Hove Crown court heard that Pattison detonated a nuke twice in a nursing home. She also allegedly exploded a hamster with mentos, and wrote lewd poetry."

What kind of reporting is this?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well considering that they're choosing to say had sex with a 14-year-old rather than what a logical person would call it which is rape, they wouldn't have said designated a nuke twice in a nursing home, they would have said something like "had a once repeated moderately sized incendiary mishap"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s because in the UK, where this occurred, it legally is not rape.

You cannot commit rape if you don’t have a penis.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Eh, you can make rape legal for women but you can't make it not rape.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Take a trip through this comment section and you'll see just how vehemently people don't want this to be be called rape.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

oh we are really enthusiastic about rape and protecting rapists as a society