this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2023
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Paragons of Virtue Arrested

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It's time to name and shame the self-proclaimed paragons of virtue. Keep it civil, though.

Stories are about those who have been placed in positions of trust, and then abused that trust.

Feel free to add stories of the self-righteous from other walks of life.

New rule: With regard to stories of particularly, but not only, female teachers sexually assaulting students. Any comments similar to "where were they when I was in school" will earn you the right to find another forum.

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A FEMALE teacher repeatedly had sex with a "vulnerable" 14-year-old pupil in her car while in an "unhealthy" relationship with her, a court heard.

Ellie Pattison, 29, allegedly became friends with the schoolgirl while teaching in a secondary school.

The teacher made her believe she had fallen "in love", it was said.

Hove Crown Court heard Pattison twice had sex with the pupil in her car and in two of her friend's homes.

She also allegedly repeatedly touched the teen and kissed her after they began meeting outside her school.

Sarah Lindop, prosecuting, said: "She abused her position of trust but also made the complainant, who was a vulnerable child, believe it was a real relationship and that she loved her.”

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm the UK you have to penetrate someone with a (your?) penis for it to be rape.

[–] halvo317 -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Laws were just written with male pronouns. It's just a misconception.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. The law specifically says penis.

[–] halvo317 -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read the Wikipedia article, and it says it's not enforced like that. I linked a government source to that effect. I just don't care enough to argue about English rape laws.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because there are other laws that have the same penalties and cover the other situations. It’s just one that gets called “rape”.

Assault by penetration covers what would be “rape by instrumentation” in the US. Forcibly inserting any object other than a penis into someone else.

Then there’s Sexual Assault which would be this, and that one would be an excellent example of your source, because it is masculinely gendered as well, but applies to female offenders as well.

All three carry the same penalties so it just becomes a legal semantic argument rather than a practical argument.

[–] halvo317 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it walks like a duck and rapes like a duck...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Then in pretty much other country it’s a raping duck.

Except in the uk unless that duck has a penis.