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In short, when the Colorado and Minnesota cases arrive in Washington, the Supreme Court will confront a desperate race against time. If it fails to decide the cases rapidly, it will provoke a constitutional crisis once the polls close and each state decides who won the election. Under current law, state legislatures must report their Electoral College winners in time for Vice President Kamala Harris to report the results to a joint session of Congress meeting on Jan. 6, 2025. Once she inspects the ballots, she is likely to find that none of the three candidates—neither Biden, nor Trump, nor Trump’s proxy—has won a majority of the electoral votes. At this point, Harris will confront a dilemma that will make Vice President Mike Pence’s predicament in 2021 seem modest by comparison.

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat 17 points 10 months ago

The EC is so outdated and fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Please don't let the supreme court choose shit...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don’t really have a choice. Which is why they should have impeached Thomas and a few others (or packed the court)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that essentially letting him get away with it? With everything?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t say I like it. But the US government is a system of laws; and those laws say the SCROTUS has the final authority on constitutional matters.

We can either ignore those laws (and become the enemy, really) or overthrow the government.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We can either ignore those laws (and become the enemy, really) or overthrow the government.

Can you help me parse that? I don't quite understand what you are saying.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The US Supreme Court is enshrined by laws as the heights judicial court in the country.

Eventually the matter of trump’s elegibility is going to wind up before it. Your choice at that point is to either accept its authority- even if they’re corrupt assholes who have no business having power; or over throwing the lawful government.

Republicans would simply ignore the court (as they have in the past- in this context they’re the enemy we’d become.).

Note, I’m not advocating an insurrection, either (and become more like them.) but I do see the US as walking a dark path… and I’m scared and impotent.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Eventually the matter of trump’s elegibility is going to wind up before it. Your choice at that point is to either accept its authority- even if they’re corrupt assholes who have no business having power; or over throwing the lawful government.

So regardless, one side will end up in a no-win situation forced to reject the will of the Supreme Court (through this lens).

Yeah I don't know how they'll rule. I'm also not 100% that it will get there. Its wildly uncertain times. But thanks for adding more words. I wasn't quite getting your point before.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just because they've made some heinous decisions doesn't make them all wrong. And they're certainly not beholden to Trump just because he put 3 of them on the bench. That's the whole idea behind lifetime appointments. They've already won their seats, and politicians can go fuck themselves if they don't like it.

They just told Alabama to go fuck themselves on voting rights. There was another tangentially related (to Trump) voting case they refused to hear. Don't be so sure they won't defer to a lower court's decision if Trump's kicked off the ballot.

Disclaimer: I'm not laying bets here people. I'm not totally nuts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

You say that but the conservative justices clearly have powerful perks from rich republican donors. The agenda isn’t set by trump, it’s set by those who like him upon others. So I’d give it a 0% chance of the Supreme Court stepping in. Even aside from this issue, they want us to decide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I have a hunch that in places where a proxy appears to pull electoral votes that ‘cult of personality’ voters won’t show up. They want the Trump name. An ad-hoc write-in campaign, or even the inclusion of the increasingly rightward-leaning (and recognizable) Kennedy name would easily handicap a proxy candidate - allowing a Biden win.

I’m not saying the republicans wouldn’t try to let the house pick, but I think (hope?) they wouldn’t get far enough with that plan to try it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

that's why they stacked the supreme court, to dismantle the USA, maybe they'll stop all the colonization and genocide instead of engaging in "business as usual" .... right?

What goes around comes around.... the USA has been going around spreading shit, it's coming around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

SCOTUS didn’t save him in 2020 and they’re not going to save him in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

I wish I could trust them to do the right thing.