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[–] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Lol, if we start excluding tech based on the inventors mental illnesses we are gonna end up bashing rocks together to make fire.

Edit: To be clear, I am not saying that being trans is a mental illness, only refuting that mental illness is not a reason to discard ones contributions. Apologies for any offence.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

let me tell you about the guy who invented bashing rocks together ...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

.>calling being trans a mental illness

sus incredibly sus ngl unsus

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (6 children)

The original post called it a mental illness, i was following that. Apologies if I caused offence it was not intended.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Being trans is not a mental illness but let's not encourage stigma around mental illness either.

Cis people with mental illness are valid

Trans people with mental illness are valid

Mentally healthy trans people are valid

Mentally healthy cis people are valid

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I mean, being trans is perfectly valid, but I think gender dysphoria itself should be classified as a mental illness so long as it brings significant pain/distress to the individual, the solution there is just gender reassignment, surgery, hormones, etc. I don't think there should be stigma in calling it such, it needs treatment the same as anything else. People with ADHD have a mental illness and get meds, sometimes therapy, people with poor eyesight have an ocular dysfunction of some kind and get glasses or surgery or whatever, none of it should be that big a deal. The point is it can be diagnosed and treated.

I think the response to shit like "transgenderism" being a mental disease should be "well at least their/our dysphoria can be treated now, what's your excuse?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

don't threaten me with a good time

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

It's so easy to be called *phobic these days. It reminds of those relationships in which people feel like they are walking on eggshells.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 9 months ago (3 children)

sigh, people suck.

This is actually something that bugs me about GitHub - I'm a Professional Software Developer, and we use GitHub enterprise internally at work (don't @ me, we don't have the budget to run our own infrastructure, BitBucket is crap and the sales person at GitLab ghosted me on 3 consecutive calls that we set up to discuss our needs). I'm also in charge of a team, and actively encourage the team to contribute to open source - find a bug? Draw up reproduction steps, report it upstream, and Fridays after lunch are dedicated to getting those bugs fixed. One of these days one of my team is going to run across one of these assholes, and I'm going to have a proper HR incident on my hands because that is a hostile work environment. Doesn't matter that it is a member of the public being a dick, I've got an obligation to ensure that my staff have a workplace free of harassment, and I've got absolutely no recourse against this other than to say "cool, we don't contribute to this repo anymore".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

that is a hostile work environment

I understand your frustration. I go to GitHub für code, not for some weirdo's Telegram channel. But, come on, do your employees have access to the internet? Does someone maintain a Facebook page on the clock? Is Google allowed? Reasonable people can distinguish between workplace and internet hate.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where I live at least, there is a difference because they are performing a task that they are being directed to perform as part of their job, as opposed to just randomly stumbling across hate while browsing the internet - if I've directed one of my staff to "submit a PR to this repo and work with the maintainers to get it merged" and some asshole drops into the comments they are being forced to engage in that situation, and that is not ok.

One case that I've heard of is a pizza delivery place that had to pay some serious compensation to a couple of their delivery people because they refused to stop accepting orders from someone who would be super abusive if their delivery person wasn't a white guy. Management knew what was happening, the drivers had complained and asked for a resolution, management had refused to do anything about it, so the business had to pay compensation.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

the sales person at GitLab ghosted me on 3 consecutive calls that we set up to discuss our needs).

I'm guessing they looked at your company and decided you weren't worth enough to them.

We found Gitlab's pricing to be, frankly, ridiculous for the number of seats we have. Shame, the product is nice, just the sales team and pricing structure blows goats.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Transphobia and such aside (which are shitty and unnecessary in their own right), how on earth can you realistically boycott Wayland when nearly every last Xorg dev has moved to Wayland permanently?

X11 is simply end of life, and there are no display server technologies or protocols that exist to challenge Wayland because no one cares enough to bother with the immesnse work it entails? At best you'll be stuck on a legacy distro for a few years until your display drivers become too out of date for whatever apps you use.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

I don't really understand why people hate so much on transsexuality these days. Calling them a 'scourge' and 'mentally ill". What BS. Trans people are not hurting anyone. They just want to be their true self.

One of the arguments often used (also here) is that they are trying to force other people to be trans (in this case the poster says "they think everyone should get puberty blockers"). Which is complete BS, I have never met a trans person that wanted everyone else to be trans too.

It seems to be a big pet peeve of the extreme-right these days. I just don't understand why.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

They thrive of hating the weaker groups in society. If you want some morbid fun, try asking one of those what they should do with trans people if the had the power...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

If they had to get mad at reality, there’d be a lot less to be mad about. Being mad about made-up BS is a way for them to have their cake and eat it too. It’s boogeymen all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

They want everyone to be cis, so obviously everyone else wants people to be in their groups too!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The main reason is that they try to control what people think and how they feel. They don't understand that just because they want to be seen and treated a certain way doesn't mean everyone else needs to accommodate them.

If you believe men can't be women (and vice-versa), that's fine. If you believe they can, that's fine too.

If you believe your view is an abject fact and there should be no discussion, then that's not fine. Unfortunately, a lot of people fall into the last category where they hear something that challenges their beliefs and immediately want to censor it. All that does is create enemies by telling people they can't discuss their views.

It's an effective tactic, on both sides.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Those in power hate losing control. That's why bodily autonomy, sexual freedom, critical thinking, accurate history, and religious diversity are all their go-to boogymen.

Trans folk are just one of the more recent groups to be targeted.

I've known four out trans people. One was a piece of shit. The other three turned out to be amazing and empathetic people who all made my life better just by knowing them.

It turns out, when you deal with people being entitled jerks to you all day, that tends to make you a better person. Forged in fire and all that.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You want give some context here? We don't even know who is speaking in these screenshots, and to what end. Why would this even be a conversation?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Seems like some open source dev that responds to the "boycott wayland gist" and is against wayland.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Edit: When I wrote the above, I didn't really realize what Wayland even was

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've filed a report to GitHub on this guy, I assume you did the same but ugh, people suck.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I remember back when I thought all FOSS was part of the FSF, and that itself was formed of hippie liberal progressives. Had a rude awakening when I found about the MIT vs GPL rift, and then another on HN when I realised half the people in software were just there to make money.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had a period where I didn't really understand the GPL or what it was trying to do. All I knew is that it was ""viral"" (whatever the hell that meant!) and that, supposedly, trying to use it would forever bind you and your creation to who knows what unforeseen legal horrors. I mean, look how long it is! It's frightening! I wanted absolutely nothing to do with it at first.

Then I got a clue and actually read it. It's quite straightforward. For almost all serves and purposes it's basically just MIT plus copyleft. All the legal density is just an effort to squash every conceivable loophole to the copyleft directive. I'm no longer afraid of it, I think it's pretty cool.

The thing I want to know now is why so many projects think their shit don't stink and that they need to pollute the FOSS ecosystem with their own stupid permissive license that is functionally identical to the MIT license.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Unsurprising. I've seen a fair amount of people in the Linux community like this.

It's also quite hilarious to see them frothing at the mouth so much over Gnome getting some money to aid in accessibility improvements lol. Can't be having the less abled using computers now, can we?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

[Completely unrelated to the content] How the heck is this post managing to crash two out of my three lemmy clients?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Evil Wayland is making their app crash

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

Maybe they don't support multiple images at once?

Make sure to report it 🤠

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago

Someone is mad that GNOME got a 1 000 000 € grant from the government and is blaming trans people

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

I dont understand, give context, who is binex-dsk and why should I care?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for the Windows emojis lol, I'm on a computer shop as I post this on lunch break

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago

I would never have known if you hadn't told me. XD

[–] long_chicken_boat 18 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I'm actually pro LGTB and hate Wayland. Don't make us all look as conservative scumbags. Some of use just hate Red Hat (IBM) because of their big corp nature.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (27 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Can we please stop making anything about how people feel about their selves?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Ah, the James Damore archetype of an engineer. I bet they get wet dreams imagining themselves as the Howard Roark of programming (and just as delusional).

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