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While Blizzard is very much focussed on its big money-makers like its various Warcraft games, from WoW to Hearthstone to Warcraft Rumble, as well as Diablo and the much-maligned Overwatch 2, he's still open to StarCraft making a comeback. That said, RTS fans shouldn't get their hopes up. While the series might return, that doesn't necessarily mean it will be an RTS, and whatever shape it takes will depend on the person or team who goes to bat for it.

"It's not me saying, 'Go make a StarCraft game,'" Ybarra told Bloomberg. "I need to have someone who has the vision and passion that comes with the idea, and I'll bet on that team."

A vision and passion he - according to his own words - clearly does not have. πŸ˜‘

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

The good days of Blizzard are over, I'm not getting my hopes up for anything they produce nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I'll keep an ear to the ground.

But I don't like that $90 preorder logic at all, it's almost weird it exists.

I try to imagine going to a gamestop and a gaming associate was like, buy that game 3 days later and I'll give you $20.

Skip the in game pet and mount, that most people forget exists after the expansion, and I'll make that $40

But then.... why does this system exist?!

[–] ryathal 10 points 9 months ago

Early access is the new fad, because it costs nothing and has value to some players. The increasing drive for more monetization is Activision's influence, Blizzard was really lazy about it before being bought.

At least early access makes a little sense in an mmo. The new areas are super crowded on launch, so letting some get through early does help.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

But then… why does this system exist?!

Because it works and makes them money! You can bet that other publishers will take notice and you'll see such money grabbing schemes becoming more and more common.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 9 months ago (17 children)

that doesn't necessarily mean it will be an RTS, and whatever shape it takes will depend on the person or team who goes to bat for it.

So... it's not Starcraft, then. It's just another game.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

You know how in Starcraft, Infestors could take over a unit and parade it around to do its bidding?

It sounds kind of like that, but with the Starcraft brand.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So… it’s not Starcraft, then.

I think Starcraft has enough story and character development by now that its identity is more than just the mechanics that it started with.

It’s just another game.

It would still be a Starcraft game. If we were to ignore the lore and only consider the RTS format, then even the first Starcraft was "just another game". Those mechanics weren't unique or new.

Similarly, World of Warcraft is still a Warcraft game, even though it's hung on a different framework from the original.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I think Starcraft has enough story and character development by now that its identity is more than just the mechanics that it started with.

I can imagine that, but I don't think anyone but RTS fans know that.
I feel like, if they want to 'bring it back' as a brand, they would need to do an RTS game with all the marketing and such, to please the fans and bring it back into the public's memory, and then they could follow it up with a non-RTS spinoff.

If they don't do it like this, they'll likely have another debacle like with Diablo Immortals, where fans are waiting for a full-fledged title in that series and they're announcing something that's just not that.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

The name is moneygrab

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

StarCraft extraction shooter confirmed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Would you claim if Starcrft ghost had not been canceled, it would not be a starcrft game?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

StarCraft Pinball! I can't wait.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Blizzard died a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, let's not forget that Blizzard was bought by Activision and Activision was just bought by Microsoft.

There is no "Blizzard", just Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I genuinely have more faith in Microsoft than Activision.

I don't have any empirical evidence, but for some reason I do.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago

"Ohoho Kerrigan got herself in a big pickle, could you help her collect all these fruit?"

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

StarCraft Ghost back on the menu?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

Yeah it's been awhile, old penny arcade about it been almost 20 years. I remember hoping to see it at the time.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

The next Starcraft game will be a MOBA BR because that's the most soulless thing we could think of and it's our best bet to boost shareholder confidence.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It's going to be a mobile game.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

What, you don't have a phone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Filled with micro transactions too. I’d be surprised if it isn’t P2W

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I hope StarCraft: Ghost finally gets made. IIRC, it was supposed to be a 3rd person shooter.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It was made then they shelved it

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

A build was leaked, it wasn't complete but according to the reports it had like 2 complete worlds.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

"The lights mean stealth!"

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

My thought exactly!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Beat me to it. I'd put money on them completing this (or a bastardization of what it was supposed to be).

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do we have StarCraft on mobile. Maybe StarCraft Immortal something?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you guys not have phones?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Do you guys not have credit card(s) ?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Mobile gacha / 10

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why do I feel like this is gonna just be M$/Activi$ion/Blizzard going, "Hey look at Starfield, we have a sci-fi thing, let's copy Starfield with our sci-fi IP".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

And I mean, while I can't see a Starfield-clone work in the Starcraft universe, I could see an adjacent spin-off game work really well like being a cargo-pilot having to drop stuff off on planets during active battles with fire all around you, or an exploration game where you explore galaxies and have to avoid being detected/caught by the zerg and/or protoss.

But I can't see the modern Actiblizzking pull that off, even with MS throwing endless money at them.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is there any point to StarCraft if it’s not an RTS?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Idk, I always thought Starcraft: Ghost sounded promising. Actually being able to participate in one of the battles seemed pretty cool to me. Of course, the devil is usually in the details.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Sounds like under Microsoft it's going to be a first person shooter :rolls eyes:

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

To be fair, I reckon a well made SC FPS could be pretty rad if you got to play each species/unit type. Playing as a Zealot or Dark Templar would be awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Blizzard cut their teeth and grew most of their oldest fans on RTS's, and now don't want to make more RTS because the average gamer wants to play an arena game, battle royal or rpg. The RTS market is there, investors just don't see it because RTS tends to be more niche and players putting in more hours overall compared to more casual friendly genres.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Some time back there was an April Fool's Day release for World of Starcraft. I assume they didn't make it because they had maxed out their bank accounts.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

how about make a new fucking game?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I'd love for Blizzard to pursue a genuine passion project. Ask the Microsoft overlords for a few years to put out something not beholden to sales expectations or profit. They can devote a small team to make something that they want to while the rest of the company continues on with its soulless corporate entertainment fabricator to fund the creative projects. You need creative projects to keep the workforce engaged.

If nothing else, Activision Blizzard was seen as a greedy, profit-driven machine which continually pushed out semi-entertaining products with en emphasis on FOMO micro-transactions and monetization schemes. Blizzard is a shell of what it once was.

Let them get back to their roots. Let them focus on engagement and fun.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I thought they were shutting down Hearthstone?

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