Ah, the free speech, how beautiful
this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2023
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I imagine they are in damage control mode and are hoping to stem the outflow of users' attention spans to the Lemmyverse while their current actions are the Current Thing.
I reckon they are budgeting for a 1-2 week martial law period to try and stabilise and will probably force open all the closed subs and make use of repost and chatGPT bots to simulate decent engagement, possibly even paying for comments too.
It would also be very interesting if they roll back on their censorship of open discussion of certain topics to attract back previously "resettled" users.
Imma be real, this sounds like you're massively overestimating the amount of people that actually care about this whole thing. Yes, you'll probably get less content, but not enough to really matter for many people.
The casual reddit user would be back once their favorite subs are back online and will go about their day like before.
Maybe once the third party apps shut down and people really don't want to move to the official app you might get something.
I got no idea what would happen if enough mods quit, and a lot of subs couldn't run properly anymore. For the biggest subs you might get paid mods from reddit themselves, but no idea what will happen to the smaller subs.
Agreed. I'm definitely waiting in anticipation of the end of the month to see what happens. Regardless, lemmy is my new home. Fediverse is just a great concept, looking forward to it maturing.
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The casual reddit user just lurks though. If the active users move, the quality of the site will go down (even more).
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I reckon they are budgeting for a 1-2 week martial law period to try and stabilise and will probably force open all the closed subs and make use of repost and chatGPT bots to simulate decent engagement, possibly even paying for comments too.
This is such a strange and surreal idea. Martial Law in the Internet. but I can see that actually happen.
I wouldn’t put it past them in an attempt to protect their IPO. It’ll be exposed almost immediately, but it’s not like an idea being terrible has stopped spez before.
AITA for wishing their IPO to be a complete failure ? Like, the stock dropping 90% on the first day ?
NTA. They’ve tried to screw us all for money and if there’s any justice in the world they’re about to find out what made their site so attractive to investors the hard way. Fuck ‘em.
feeling like an asshole for wishing corporate douchbags to fail is your capitalistic conditioning acting up. If their IPO makes reddit and their portfolio take a nosedive, then that's on them. They took the risk, they can live with the consequences. Gosh, perhaps some of them will be forced to work a normal job again, like the rest of us
Only people I feel for is the workers at Reddit. Not their fault their boss is an asshole.
Thing is, the only people that lose at that point at the buyers, not reddit itself
It's funny, I used to be on BestofRedditorUpdates where almost any "good" story that got reposted was subject to arguments about whether it actually happened or if the OP made it up. Now with ChatGPT it can all be made up. /s
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I wouldn't say "martial law", but if they're gearing up for their IPO then I wouldn't be surprised if they take "harsh" measures to kick out uncooperative mods and force subs to reopen.
Reddit admins are just protecting lemmy.ml from being further overloaded!
In all seriousness, it's best to direct people to https://join-lemmy.org rather than any specific instance - the list of instances there is constantly being updated and can be used to spread out the load between different instances. Even so, your post would most likely still have been removed from Reddit, regardless of what specific Lemmy url you're posting.
Unfortunately according to my own experience that page is not exactly welcoming for new users. It's just not very clear what it is all about and confusing. The community list page on the other hand is easy to understand and the "Subscribers" stat is convincing.
A lot of people feel the same way. The good news is that there is work underway to imporve https://join-lemmy.org as we speak, hopefully new users will start seeing some improvements there soon!
I wosh we had an alternative site together, so as to avoid newcomers immediately seeing a) lemmygrad and b) that one NSFW instance that bills itself as "shota/loli/cub friendly". That turns people away, understandably, especially because it's not clear from the outset how easy you can avoid interacting with those instances at all, or that the rules and culture between instances can be totally different.
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They banned the RedditAlternatives sub a few days ago. If it wasn’t the case before, it probably is now. This situation must be rattling some cages at Reddit regardless of what Spez said.
It's not banned now (for what that's worth)
Interesting, I wonder if they’ve decided that the negative publicity of appearing to censor alternative platforms wouldn’t be worth it. Begs the question as to why they’re still apparently removing links to lemmy.ml if that’s the case though.
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I wasn't too interested with what happens to reddit, but if this is the path they choose, I wish them a very fun streisand effect.
A very fitting Quote by JFK:
Freedom has many difficulties and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in, to prevent them from leaving us.
If they actually do wind up forcibly reopening the dark subs and replacing the mods, good luck having to police "Lemmy" or "Tildes" spam on top of all the usual bot nonsense and trolling that goes on. Metal and Motorhead subs are about to get nuked as collateral damage.
It's clear that /u/spez is playing by Fellon Muskolini's playbook. The problem (for them) is the existence of something called "Streisand effect". Or, as Mahatma Gandhi said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"
Reddit would be better if they just ignored posts pointing to Fediverse instances, but since they won't, well... Their loss is our gain.
It's possible they setup bots to scan links to lemmy and automatically remove them, if they're really doing that, it means they're scared.
going to grab more popcorn
The thing to do now is post it in an image. They can't autodetect the text in the image . its possible for sure but they're not spending money on that
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Same. They shadow deleted a comment I made with a link to lemmy, I can still see it if I'm logged in though.
shadow deleting and banning is such an asocial thing to do, equal to shunning, a terrible practice.
Maybe try pointing them to r/kbinmigration or r/lemmymigration
Link them to lemmyverse.net so they can VISUALIZE their options
Twitter did the same with Mastodon links originally.
Sad. Ummm, I just figured out how to link gifs...
To link a gif:
Just noticed those fuckers actually banned pushshift, spez and his band of lowlifes sure don't want people to be able to see their meddling.
I’m sure the automation just looks for keywords so pass the link through a url shortener and not say lemmy or beehaw in main text.
Use a URL shortener like bitly.
As a mod of a few big subs, that doesn't really work either. Lots of us ban those on sight because of those stupid t-shirt bots.
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Great stuff! I image they will have a hard time banning all instances.
Did you insert the actual hyperlink or just had Lemmy.ml as text?
I inserted 2 hyperlinks:
The link should be the trigger. My other comments with "Lemmy" in it was not removed.
Can you still see the text of the original post? I mean, the text containing the link to lemmy
No, it just says "[ Removed by Reddit]". link
So we cannot screenshot it, clever... We need to document this and make sure everyone knows what reddit is doing. Perhaps screenshotting the post before posting it, making sure to include the permalink can be an idea to demonstrate their censorship
We need to document this and make sure everyone knows what reddit is doing.
There's been a lot of posts both here and on reddit saying that mentions of kbin and/or lemmy get deleted or the users/subs get outright banned, like /r/redditMigration, which had 2 posts and got banned for spam.
Regardless of the outcome of the strike, Reddit already has died. The users that matter won't go back. The users that stay will be media and a large pool of lurkers with no value to the community.
Reddit as we knew it, already died.
Similar things happened when Twitter screwed the pooch and you'd mention Mastodon to people.
join-lemmy.org might be better link to post, so people dont all go to one instance and might understand better how lemmy works
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