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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah yes, the checks notes Islamic Resistance Movement is famously progressive which it displays by imposing the Hijab in a region where it's not traditional, prohibiting women from participating in sports events and banning music festivals as Haram (even before they were murdering festival goers in Israel). I'm pretty sure they have a very reasonable position regarding homosexuality. /s

[–] Jax 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wait, let me bombard you with 16 quintillion articles about how U.S. citizens are actually homophobic. Now that you understand your place, why exactly is homopbobia from Hamas bad? Oh, also I'm trans btw.

  • your average hexbear schizo
[–] Socsa 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"You only think Muslims are homophobic because you haven't read enough Lenin. Hold on my mom needs to use the computer"

[–] goat 5 points 1 year ago

sources include this youtube video I found and this comment on reddit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, like 75% of us Americans support gay marriage (though admittedly only 45% support gender-affirming care)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This sums up the actual situation gays face in Palestine, not even Israel the so-called “only gay-friendly country in the Middle East” has done anything for them (and even enables their plight)

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

90% of Muslims in Muslim countries are theocratic, they literally want to kill Gays.

Average Islamism Apologists anyway.

[–] goat 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some believe it's islamophobic to point out how the Middle East treats its queers. They're strange.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean it is, gays have a Islamophobia because they don't want to be killed. I think thats like arachnophobia...

A phobia is a fear after all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey now, it's not just LGBT. It's also:

Christians.

Atheists.

Women who don't wear the right hats.

Jews.

The wrong type of Muslims...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m vividly aware of that second one, as an atheist. On social media I’ve seen posts by atheists who were once Muslim, they told such depressing stories of hiding, of trying to save up to move to Western Europe or North America. Gays too, and for them it’s even harder since all it takes is hungrily eyeing one cute guy by mistake for the game to be up as they prepare to run. And in college I once met a gay from Saudi Arabia who quietly deconverted (became an atheist) from Islam and later escaped to the US using that university (hopefully he has citizenship, a green card or something), I once overheard him talking about how scared he felt around followers of his former faith.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I wish we'd drop the whole phobia thing and just call them bigots.

It makes them sound like a victim when in fact they are creating victims by being a giant piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The Muslims would be the bigots in that case...

You cant call gays bigots for not wanting to be killed... And they aren't the assholes in that situation either way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not all Muslims are homophobic.

Hating someone because of their religion while ignoring their personal beliefs/interpretation is bigoted.

Homophobic people are very clearly bigoted.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

These people live in a fantasy world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, they live in our world sadly (you instance admins are amongst them btw...)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look into the sidebar, knowing such wording they will ban you for saying you don't like Muslim terrorists killing Jews. At best with "Genocide denial" or "both siding genocide" as reason, or just without reason.

They literally deleted my account for having a account on another instance they don't like.

[–] goat 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry where is this? I don't see any of it on dbzer0

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, i might have misread the modlog and it was a ban on Lemmyml...

(oopsy doopsy)

The modlog is awful...

[–] goat 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's okay. Fun fact, the Lemmy Developers (admins of lemmyml and lemmygrad), have this community specifically banned. No other community on any other instance has this sort of treatment :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know, they literally implemented a feature asked for by many instance admins and keep it for themselves... They are assholes. The .ml bubble in general is a shitshow and lemmy world sucks their dicks as well...

[–] goat 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The devs will crash themselves soon. They hate how LIBERAL their precious lemmy has become.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, since its open development i don't see much of a problem, the most of it is already done by others.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Soo... no dice?

[–] goat 7 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Estiar 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do honor killings mean?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Killing, typically women, for bringing 'dishonor' on the family. Such as through adultery, religious conversion, general non-conforming behavior, etc.

[–] goat 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

oh, but have you considered that uhhhh... bbc fake because something something

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's part of the Imperial Core and Manufacturing Consent to Exploit the Global South

[–] goat 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They actually believe that?!

[–] goat 3 points 1 year ago