Until the Republicans decide to put someone forward who didn't attempt to undermine the election, they aren't serious.
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Afaik, Emmer is one of two reps in the group of 9 (now 8, after one guy pulled out of the nomination yesterday) that did not refuse to certify the AZ and PA electors in the 2020 election.
Edit: turns out he did sign the amicus brief encouraging the SC to throw the results though, which is essentially just as bad… yayyyyyyyy -_-
I think you're both right. He did a lot to support the Texas vs Pennsylvania lawsuit to remove valid ballots, but he didn't actually vote to do it. So he supported the overthrow of the election, he just didn't follow through. How the scales balance after those 2 events, I leave up to you!
In the aftermath of the 2020 election, Tom Emmer, a leading Republican candidate to be speaker of the House, baselessly said there were “questionable” practices in the 2020 presidential election.
Later, Emmer signed an amicus brief in support of a last-ditch Texas lawsuit seeking to throw out the results in key swing states.
Though he would vote to certify the results on January 6, 2021, the comments and actions show Emmer flirted with some of the same election denial rhetoric as far-right members of the Republican caucus.
Ahhh. I didn’t realize he co-signed the amicus. That’s not good.
The devil is in the details! 👹
It always is!
Pro: At least he is smart enough to have read the room and was one of the few people running for Speaker that could say they didn't vote for it.
Neutral: Seems to policy-wise be a split between a Bush and Trump era Republican, so he's slightly less bad than a full fledged MAGA, but still pretty bleh on most issues. But we all knew it was going to be a Republican, so we knew most of us wouldn't like whoever it was anyway, but it sadly could have been a number of worse choices.
Con: As a Pennsylvania introvert who loves mail in voting, screw this guy...
Tom Emmer voted to certify the 2020 election.
No, but McCarthy was a loon too. This is a return to status quo loondom. Which is marginally better than 'loondom but even worse'.
Oh yeah, that's not a problem. They were never serious.
I mean, arguably in the 50's or something. But since Reagan it's been a screeching clownwreck of disaster up until this very day.
January 20th, 1981 - the day American people were less important than oligarchs.
Were slaves considered Americans at the time? Might have to push the date back a little, I don't think there was ever a time in the country's history that people were more important than oligarchs.
Can you get off my nuts please? I really don't feel like dialoguing with a racist.
Lol.
Oh. You're still here.
Beautiful
They are rotating the designated speakers out and back into the septic tank so fast, the coming and going messages are all still in the "Active" phase. I wonder how many short-lived candidates we manage to keep in the top ten pages.
Someone go poke the Freedom Caucus and whisper "That's not your guy, is it? You shouldn't stand for this."
Hakeem Jeffries is still the top candidate, right?
He's received more votes in every Speaker election since McCarthy was installed on the 15th ballot.
By now he's received the most votes for Speaker than anyone in history, right?
@return2ozma It's pronounced "bouquet" ! Emmer means bucket in dutch.
I got this reference
I appreciate this niche joke
Even if Emmer or someone else wins in the next week or two, how are they going to keep the government open? A win necessarily means a promise to some psychopaths who will either find a way to tank the budget, or I guess just fire the new guy exactly like they did McCarthy.
I don't have much hope for what comes after budget negotiations.
The core problem that needs resolved is that the Freedom Caucus had the power to unseat an Speaker that brought a non-insane budget bill to the floor. If a Speaker is elected and that power is removed, a budget can be proposed and voted on with some Democratic support to make up for the Freedom Caucus being lunatics.
Can you imagine that precondition being allowed?