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Quick shout-out to Grayjay: An app to watch videos on any platform - reducing the power of individual services. The Software is open-source and can be found here: https://gitlab.futo.org/videostreaming/grayjay

I will test this out for myself and hope someone here finds this useful.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It's viewable source, the license does not allow modification and distribution of the modifications. The license also reserves the right to be revoked at any time.

It's source available, but it is not what most people would consider open source in the common usage.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Exactly. Beware of the inevitable enshittification down the line. Once they have the market share, they have no reason not to close their source

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He says in the video on yt that you can fork it and modify it however you want for personal use no problem. You just can't make money distributing it I think.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So basically no chance of it coming to iOS. Given that even open source apps have options to purchase donations in the iOS app, cause developers can’t eat gratitude

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He also says somewhere in the comments that apple simply wouldn't allow this app on the app store. But there's also the option of sideloading, I think that's free no?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

App looks legitimately amazing. Seems a bit buggy in alpha but I'm sure it'll be ironed out. I just hope they look into supporting Piped instead of directly connecting to YouTube, as well as SponsorBlock. Once they get those 2 things and iron out some of the bugs, I'll primarily use it for sure. Its a great concept.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't interacting through Piped just introduce an additional communication layer, which makes interacting with YT slower? I see your argument with Piped, but what would be the pros of using Piped which outweighs the additional communication costs?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pro would just be not directly connecting through Google/YouTube servers, and instead using a proxy. Its a nice privacy benefit. I agree it could make things slower, so I don't think it should completely replace direct connection with YouTube, but I just think the option would be nice to have.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I wish somewhere on their site or anywhere in that description they'd say "Android App".

I was a little disappointed as an iOS user browsing their site trying to find the iOS App Store link 😬.

Edit: I appreciate the advice to switch to Android but I really wasn't asking. 😅

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

Apple actively sabotages projects like this one. You're using the wrong phone.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Silly apple user you don't get to have good apps

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Downloaded it and tried it. It's awesome. It blows invidious and newpipe out of the water. Plus it includes my nebula subscriptions in with my YouTube subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you know if it sends back watch data to the platforms? I pay for Nebula to support the folks I watch, so wouldn't want to lose out on that.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Louis Rossmann is based AF

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

A shame it is not available for iOS (at least I can see).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your mistake chosing an iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If there was a Linux approach to smartphones, I’d be interested. Instead, it’s a choice between two large corporations. And one of them receives the majority of its income from advertising. So that’s why I chose what I perceived to be the lesser of the two evils.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The lesser of two evils is Android as it's like they put closed-source software on top of open source software (see AOSP) whereas on iPhone it's all closed.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Apple actively sabotages these kinds of projects. You're on the wrong device.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Louis says somewhere in a comment on the presentation video that they won't have (at least for the time being) an iOS app because Apple wouldn't allow it in the Store, so there's that.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wonder, are there any decent open source apps available for IOS? Asking for a friend, an Android envious friend, (actually my wife)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

https://monal-im.org/

Is a nice XMPP client for iOS. But yeah Apple is pretty hostile to open-source developers.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Really enjoying it so far

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

where did you find that gitlab link? it isn't linked from the project website; looking at the website i would assume it isn't free software.

edit: oh, i see it isn't actually free software after all, it is under source 'source visible' proprietary license. 🥱

[–] hatchet 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I literally just watched the video from Louis Rossman, and came straight here. Pleased to see everyone already talking about it!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The app looks cool, but why did you post this in c/privacy? Does this have some extra privacy related features?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It excludes trackers from apps like YT, Twitch etc, so there is an argument to be made

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Exactly this. Bonus points: this time privacy is more convenient than the native apps.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this looks awesome. Curious if it will be added to F-Droid?

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