Pleeeeaaaase give this guy some consequences and not another stern talk and finger wag.
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Hits bail needs to be revoked.
Fuck I would love to see actual consequences.
Bit worried that the gag order doesn't directly preclude this though. Like yeah it's clearly not in the spirit of, but is it a contravention?
The existing gag order from Justice Engoron most certainly does not cover this. AG James is not "court staff." There would be a very justifiable call for a mistrial if the court and the plaintiff are on the same "staff."
Trump would probably need to be arrested for the crime of doxxing. This can be charged in New York State, or - because AG James is both a State employee and an officer of the law - also at the federal level.
Widening the gag order sounds much more appropriate.
Although if idiots were to show up at the home of AG James you might reconsider charging Trump with whatever crime seemed appropriate.
Widening the gag order sounds much more appropriate.
It really doesn't, though, because the end result is that Donald Trump, 45th fucking President of the United States, gets away with creating a substantial threat to the safety of a government employee involved in litigating against him in one of many court cases. Again.
But they'll say "Oh, everybody knew that already, see it was someone else's article!" and "AG James is not court staff!" and "First Amendment!" and "Get some flypaper!" And he will get away with it, again. He'll get away with it next time, too.
The only way to keep him from stochastic terrorism is for one of the criminal courts to revoke his bond and put him in detention pending trial.
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If I did a single thing this douchebag has done, I’d be in jail. Yet he’s the front runner for president for a political party. Blows my mind.
I cannot wait to not hear his name or voice again.
Almost like we live in a world with two very distinct classes of citizen, based entirely on money.
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Anyone else would have been arrested and jailed by now.
And his fan boys and girls all whine about him being picked on. We really are being played with.
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Probably.
The judges in Trump's various cases have to walk a fine line between justice being served and accusations of being politically aggressive against a high profile defendant.
Accusations which could derail the case and do even more damage to trust in the judiciary and the overall rule of law.
accusations of being politically aggressive against a high profile defendant
Republicans already launch those accusations regardless of whether or not they have merit. Worrying about what Republicans are going to say is a losing game.
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And he’s the kind of person who’ll just keep stepping further over the line until the hammer finally comes down. Judges know this type, and they usually throw them in jail sooner because they know the violations will only get worse.
But I doubt this guy’s ever going to jail. He’s rich and famous, so…different rules.
Just how many laws does this man have to break before he faces any real consequences??
It really is a divide of the rich and the poor, cause if any of us did just one of the things he's done there'd be no question, and we'd be behind bars already.
Unfortunately, to have a squeaky clean trial the prosecutor and judge need to go above and beyond so there's zero chance trump can come back and claim bias, and ask for a mistrial.
Stupid, but, not.
and incidentally, this fear of accusation causes an inherent bias in the opposite direction. Slap him in jail already. Communication only through his lawyers. or maybe only through court appointed lawyers. Because, you know, his lawyers are also likely to be criminals.
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He can always be counted on to go lower.
May?
Law is complicated and most of it is not updated for social media. I'm pretty sure he has a dedicated lawyer checking his statements for gag order violations and if the lawyer can't directly say if it's a gag order he goes ahead with it.
It's very important for trump to look defiant but not in a way that will send him to jail.
I’m pretty sure he has a dedicated lawyer checking his statements for gag order violations and if the lawyer can’t directly say if it’s a gag order he goes ahead with it.
I don't share your certainty on that at all. Trump doesn't exactly employ the most qualified lawyers anymore, especially since he has a long history of not paying them and being complicit in sending them to jail. Also he would never let a lawyer hinder his impulse shitposting.
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I'm pretty sure he has a dedicated lawyer checking his statements
I wish I had your confidence in order and institutions. Either it was a F-tier lawyer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhy5Y8xVHS0 or it was just Trump retweeting (or whatever it's called on his platform) an article of which he like the headline.
Remember Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity ... my money is on a toilet retweet
The man who doesn't know a consequence from a clitoris again broke the rules. Shocking, I wonder how they're gonna gently corrale him this time while his supporters go on a murder mission.
Ok it may not violate the gag order because to my knowledge threats again the AG are not covered. However that is a separate crime
plane crash full of Republican "politicians" a la Lynyrd Skynyrd when
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I really hope the judge does make a move at this point.
He needs to find Trump in contempt and remand his bail so he has to stay in jail (without social media) until his court date.
How could we have predicted such an unprecedented action. /s
That was pretty quick. Who won the pool?
The gag order was on 10/3, so honestly he's lasted much longer than I thought he would.
Did anyone bet on 1.5 Mooches?
Holy shit. "mooches".
I haven't heard that in like twenty years.
twenty years. Aka 664 mooches
Maybe that orange fuck wants to go to jail, so his cesspool raises up.
It's ridiculous. Any of us would be in jail if we did even a fraction of his antics.
Since people often think that's a simple matter of different justice for the wealthy or powerful, I feel it is necessary to point out that if Obama had done a small fraction of what Trump is accused of, he would have been executed.
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Geez he’s a putrid looking individual
He looks fucked there. Serious addiction funked.
Saved you a click:
The article he shared was by Laura Loomer on substack and claimed the AG had a connection to Christian J. French, who is COO of "anti-Trump" ‘Regional News Network.’ and posted a New York City Buildings violation document and a loan modification form with the AG's home address on it. Daily Beast took this from Meidas Touch, who may have taken it from elsewhere, who knows.
Fuck daily beast's copy pasted speculation as a vehicle for ads posing as news. There is no news from the courts themselves.
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Did he actually share it? Or did one of his assistants post it on his behalf? Time to start going after his support staff.
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