this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2023
150 points (98.7% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5053 readers
464 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
all 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

How is this news? Yes, you need more energy to move a larger heavier object…Granted, the older engines might not be the most efficient but they weren’t that bad that you can compensate a weight increase of this magnitude!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

No shit sherlock

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hear that billionaire's private jets are worse than SUVs

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Individually, sure, but there are a lot more SUVs. Enough that they account for more total emissions.

[–] JohnDClay 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seems obvious compared to smaller cars. How about compared to pickups? Those are probably worse?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, old pickups were gas guzzlers. But pickups as ordinary commuter cars are incredibly rare in the UK.

It's a major problem that they're mostly sold for that purpose in the US.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

"Light trucks" (in the US, at least) don't have to meet the same fuel economy standards as passenger automobiles, the latter of which includes SUVs. So you build a massive luxury crew cab with a tiny, essentially useless bed, and you can emit more pollution than if it had a permanent "cover" and connected the passenger cabin with the cargo area.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Old pickup trucks?

My first pickup - 1985 Nissan pickup (manual) averaged 25mpg.

My current 2022 Chevy 1500 company owned work truck gets 19mpg.

Of course the old Nissan weighed 2500 lbs. My Chevy work truck weighs in at 4400lbs.

So fuel efficiency per weight has increased, but the newer trucks larger size still sucks gas.

I still prefer the smaller trucks, so much easier to drive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My first pickup - 1985 Nissan pickup (manual) averaged 25mpg.

Curious how fuel efficiency holds up over time. Does a 10, 20, 30 year old car averaging 10K miles a year still basically get the same efficiency as a new one?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It can. It would require the engine to be a good production version (which it may be if it has the miles and hasn't already had problems), good maintenance through its life, and a bit of luck. Would most cars, probably not. There's too many variables to cause original efficiency to decline, one big one being typical abuse and neglect.