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European regulator Thierry Breton shared a stern letter to TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew on Thursday, claiming his office has “indications” that the platform is being used to distribute disinformation and illegal content around the ongoing Israel-Hamas war.

Breton serves as the European commissioner for the internal market. He said TikTok must be “timely, diligent and objective” about removing misinformation, particularly since minors often turn to the platform as a source of news.

Breton issued similar letters to X owner Elon Musk and Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg this week.

“First, given that your platform is extensively used by children and teenagers, you have a particular obligation to protect them from violent content depicting hostage taking and other graphic videos which are reportedly widely circulating on your platform, without appropriate safeguards,” Breton wrote in the letter.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While we’re waiting, did musk respond? His 24 hours are over

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Auto-replied with a poop emoji probably. That's a thing the twitter press office does apparently.

In Musk's defense, it would be hilarious if twitter's response to the EU, the German authorities and others is a poop emoji, and this is the final straw that results in the EU handing out the maximum fine of 300 million dollars, and Germany handing out the potential maximum fine of 30 billion euros under NetzDG legislation for the 600 cases that had been reported by april.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

30 billion euros fine

Holy shit, I want to see this happen. It'd probably be the final nail in the coffin for twitter.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 23 points 10 months ago

That’d put him, like, $70B underwater overall on his purchase of Twitter

Lmao :D

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe a bit unrelated, but where does the $30bn go if it is fined and paid?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Shared between EU countries I'd guess, if not then hopefully to my pocket lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

nope. The 30B are from the NetzDG, which s a uniquely German law, so the Money will go to Germany.

now the 300M from the EU law:

i have only read the Law a bti, but as far as i understand it, the EU itself doesn't fine Twitter, but instead just allows iits Member States to collect fines (that collectively don't go above 6% of annual revenue)

maybe you can understand it a bit more: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?toc=OJ%3AL%3A2022%3A277%3ATOC&uri=uriserv%3AOJ.L_.2022.277.01.0001.01.ENG

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

EU handing out the maximum fine of 300 million dollars

eurodollars?

[–] gravitas_deficiency 11 points 10 months ago

C’mon, choom, get with the times.

[–] snugglesthefalse 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A few of the Germans I regularly speak to keep calling them bucks so maybe?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He is behind seven proxies on Starlink somewhere deep in Nevada, they can't get him if they wanted

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (7 children)

They can stop him doing business in Europe.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For those wondering how much this would cost, here's a techcrunch article about similar threats to twitter:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/06/elon-musk-twitter-germany-hate-speech-takedowns/amp/

Key points:

  • The EU could fine twitter up to 6% of global annual turnover, which would amount to roughly 300 million.
  • But that's just the EU. National governments can also issue fines. For example, NetzDG fines can be as high as 50 million per case(!!!), which means twitter's facing a fine of up to 30 billion for the 600 cases they were dealing with in april. Almost certainly more since then.

TLDR: stuff like this is potentially an existential threat for social media companies. Not just a cost of business and something they can ignore.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel like this is the first time in almost 20 to 30 years that I'm seeing a regulatory body impose serious consequences for non compliance to a private corporation. I'm not holding my breath that anything changes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

GDPR has been used to similar effect with comparable penalties - https://dataprivacymanager.net/5-biggest-gdpr-fines-so-far-2020/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

The EU does it quite a lot. That is what happens within a system where corporations don't have free range.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Or else ? Give another 24hours?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A fine of about 6% of their global revenue (not just profit)

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

Misinformation? On TikTok? A platform full of idiots who will believe anything?

Say it ain’t so!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yay, an other 24 hour deadline.

I'm loving these. Really makes them sweat because they can't put hundreds of lawyers on it in order to spin their answer however way they want. There just isn't enough time. So they will need to be truthful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, EU casually handing out demands for to anyone around. Kinda glad they do.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I'm interested in what misinformation they are referring to.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Hopefully all of it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Posting Arma 3 videos. Israel don't have F22 Raptors; yet....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Probably the same as Xitter:

Mostly the video's of atrocities from other wars and videogames that claim to be from this war.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'm just waiting for the Twitter from Elon and friends threatening to coup the EU...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

and what about newsroom?

[–] BakedGoods 1 points 10 months ago

Just block China from the Internet already. Fucking trash.

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