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Context (for those who don't know): Israel and Palestine

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[–] [email protected] 217 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It worked so well when they did the same thing for themselves and Ireland.

[–] [email protected] 145 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Also that whole India/Pakistan thing. And I seem to remember some stuff happening in Africa.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 10 months ago

The secret ingredient is running the fuck away before either of them notice.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And the Soviets did the same with Armenia and Azerbaijan.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It always works out fine for them. I don't know why anybody says imperialism or colonialism are bad or destructive, seems to me that Britain and France and Spain and Portugal and the Dutch are all doing fine. Really weird how maps of their empires seem to overlap a lot with parts of the world that currently or recently experienced a lot of, idk let's call it "troubles?" They must be dumb or smth

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

Well, since those former colonies can't quite work it out on their own, maybe they should just be brought back into their respective empires again? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They even had a nice little name for it, The ~~Troubles~~ Fun Times!

[–] gravitas_deficiency 19 points 10 months ago

“Spicy diplomacy”

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[–] [email protected] 113 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Britain has planted the seeds of hatred and bloodshed in the middle east and is now acting as if it has no responsibility towards resolving the conflict.

It is hard to watch the British media coverage of this war acting all outraged and surprised by the violence while being proud of their historical imperial inheritance .

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Britain is laughably impotent today.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Britain and France are responsible for such an enormous fuck up in Asia, Africa and the middle east, past and present, it's probably impossible to put it in numbers. The US gets bashed a lot (deservedly), but I think those two were planting something way more devastating for generations to come

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Belgium and the Dutch.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago (22 children)

Someone's parents never taught them to share.

Obligatory fuck religion.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (5 children)

That's been happening for the last 5,000 years in that region though, since the Canaanites.

It's not like the Palestinians were the first there.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also Britain: Oh good, the UN voted in favor of splitting up the land except the entire Arab League voting against the plan? Ok, sounds good, bye guys, have fun!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's like an HOA: The council is deciding how to divide up your backyard between your neighbors. The lawn owner is the only dissenting vote and then the neighborhood wonders why they are being so hostile.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Except in this case it costs you not just your backyard but basically your entire life.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I do hope the Israel and Palestine Wikipedia pages are doing ok.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Looks like there's a war

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

FINE YOU WEIRDO ZEALOTS:

I do hope the Palestine and Israel Wikipedia pages are doing ok.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's working as intended, the whole Ottoman Empire was split to create manufactured internal conflict.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Alternate caption: "Zionists smuggling in settlers before the British mandate ended to have enough votes to create a State of Israel as a safe haven for Holocaust refugees, then getting populated mostly by Jews fleeing Arab countries out of fear of retaliation for having created the State of Israel a day early and having pushed most Palestinians out by force"

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You realize that most Israelis came from Europe after WW2?

or do you think Liebermann, Herzog, Weitzmann, Goldberg, Weinstein etc. are Arabic names?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelis 33 % are ethnic Europeans as opposed to 12% from asia and 15% from Africa

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Interesting info and I'm not arguing against your point, but that source doesn't address their point at all. The cited source covers recent demographics. The previous user is referring to events that occurred in 1947ish. The time periods are not close enough to be relevant to each other, especially considering the massive changes that occurred throughout that period in the area.

That's kind of like if someone said that the Caribbean was entirely populated by natives when the Europeans showed up in 1492, and someone responded with demographics from the 1570s after the Spanish had established settlements in Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Trinidad, and conquered the Aztecs to dismiss the initial point. The demographics are going to be vastly different. It kind of sheds doubt onto your rebuttal since there seems to be a logical disconnect.

Does anyone have any sources on the demographics right before the British invited Jewish people to move to the Levant?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I guess technically ww1 wasn't even over.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (30 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

~~Borders are~~ violence.

Religion is violence

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This war really makes you hate Britain (and possibly France) for causing unrest in the first place

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it was a land of peace with no unrest until the British came.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Palestinians also contain Christians. Its just the modern term for gentiles in Israel now.

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